Lok Sabha Debates
Regarding An Objection Raised By A Section Of Ias Officers On The Lecture ... on 27 July, 1998
Title: Regarding an objection raised by a section of IAS officers on the lecture delivered by the RSS Chief, Prof. Rajender Singh preaching cultural nationalism. PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ (BARAMULLA): Mr. Chairman, Sir, a couple of days ago, the RSS Chief, Prof. Rajender Singh delivered a lecture to IAS officers in Uttar Pradesh. A section of IAS Officers have now raised an objection to RSS Chief bringing in politics to the bureaucracy. Pt. Jawarlal Nehru had laid a policy that bureaucracy is a very important pillar of our whole polity. But bureaucracy has to remain away from political influence... (Interruptions) SHRI JAGAT VIR SINGH DRONA (KANPUR): Sir, he should be corrected. They were his pupils and students of Allahabad University... (Interruptions) प्रो. सैफ़ुद्दीन सोज़ : मैं गलत कैसे बोल सकता हूं? ... (व्यवधान)
Sir, this involves a question of propriety. What he preached there was what B.J.P. calls `cultural nationalism'. There is an objection from the IAS cadre itself to what he spoke there. Some IAS officers might have got degrees from the Allahabad University and might have been his students. There is no objection. They can invite him to their courtyard. But they cannot invite him to the official premises. He cannot address IAS officers directly and preach his cultural nationalism. I raise this objection because already in a section of Press, this has been reflected. Ultimately, the RSS's hidden ideology will create difficulties to the B.J.P. Government. We are watching it. It will create difficulties for the B.J.P-led coalition. The RSS has a hidden ideology. ... (Interruptions) SHRI C.P. RADHAKRISHNAN (COIMBATORE): The hidden agenda is nothing but the burning patriotism of our people. ... (Interruptions) MR. CHAIRMAN : This is `Zero Hour.' PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ : How can the RSS Chief go and address the bureaucrats and want the bureaucracy to follow the RSS' policies? We do not accept the cultural nationalism as propagated in the RSS ideology. This cannot happen in this country and we cannot allow this. The bureaucracy has to remain away from the political influence. ... (Interruptions) MR. CHAIRMAN: Shri Chauhan, please resume your seat.
SHRI P.C. THOMAS (MUVATTUPUZHA): Sir, it is a very serious matter.
PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ : How can the RSS Chief, whom they call `Rajju Bhaiyya' go to the official premises and deliver his speech to the bureaucrats? This is not only objectionable but also unconstitutional. ... (Interruptions)
SHRI P.C. THOMAS : Sir, we also support that.
PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ : It is a question of propriety.
SHRI CHETAN CHAUHAN : Sir, `Rajju Bhaiyya' was the Head of the Department in Allahabad University. He was called by his former students. It has nothing to do with the Government or any official thing. PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ : He cannot do this. He cannot use the official premises.
SHRI CHETAN CHAUHAN : His former students have called him. So, he cannot have any objection. PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ : How can he use the official premises? He should not have addressed the IAS officers. Now, some of the IAS officers have taken objection to that. SHRI CHETAN CHAUHAN : If they had any objection, then they should not have done that. He had gone there as a former teacher. The ex-students had approached him as their former teacher. PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ : He went and lectured on RSS' philosophy of cultural nationalism. They are now unravelling the hidden agenda of the RSS. We reject it. SHRI CHETAN CHAUHAN : Sir, all these facts are wrong. He is only quoting from the papers. The Lok Sabha then adjourned till five minutes past Fifteen of the Clock.
15.08 hrs The Lok Sabha re-assembled at eight minutes past Fifteen of the Clock.
(Shri Khagapati Pradhani in the Chair) ... (Interruptions)
SHRI A.C. JOS (MUKUNDAPURAM): Mr. Chairman, Sir, before the Home Minister makes the statement, I want to make one point for clarification. In Ahmedabad, Gujarat the Holy Bible was burnt by miscreants. Bajrang Dal and ABVP entered a school in Rajkot and assaulted a student.
Such incidents are taking place repeatedly. Christian schools are being attacked everywhere and the Holy Bible is being burnt down by miscreants. The situation is very serious in Rajkot.
The `The Times of India' has given this news in its editorial. This incident in Ahmedabad has been reported not only in all national newspapers but all the vernacular newspapers have also reported about this incident in their editorials. ... (Interruptions)
MR. CHAIRMAN: This is not the `Zero Hour.' ... (Interruptions)
MR. CHAIRMAN: This will not go on record.
(Interruptions) * MR. CHAIRMAN: How can you raise this without the permission of the Chair?
DR. SHAKEEL AHMAD (MADHUBANI): Sir, the Home Minister should make a statement on this also... (Interruptions) SHRI A.C. JOS : It is a very serious issue... (Interruptions)
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MR. CHAIRMAN: This issue is not included in the agenda SHRI A.C. JOS : When the Home Minister makes a statement, he may consider this also... (Interruptions) MR. CHAIRMAN: What is this? You are showing papers. Everything is written in the papers. ... (Interruptions) डा. शकील अहमद : सभापति जी, अहमदाबाद की घटनाओं पर भी इनको वकतव्य देना चाहिए। अहमदाबाद में बाइबल को जलाया गया है और माइनॉरिटीज के स्कूलों में तोड़फोड़ की गयी है। MR. CHAIRMAN: Please take your seats. This is not the `Zero Hour'.
If you want any change after his statement...
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MR. CHAIRMAN: Why do you not hear me?
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SHRI A.C. JOS : This also should be included while making a statement... (Interruptions) MR. CHAIRMAN: What is this? I am saying and you do not allow me to speak! Please sit down.
... (Interruptions) संसदीय कार्य मंत्री तथा पर्यटन मंत्री (श्री मदन लाल खुराना): सभापति जी, स्पीकर साहब ने कल हुए बम-बलास्ट के बारे में आदेश दिया है। ग्ृाह मंत्री जी इस बारे में स्टेटमेंट देने जा रहे हैं उन्हें राज्य सभा मे भी यही स्टेटमेंट देना है, इसलिए इनका स्टेटमेंट पहले हो जाए। अडवाणी जी, आप अपनी स्टेटमेंट दीजिए। ... (व्यवधान) डॉ. प्रभा ठाकुर (अजमेर): सभापति जी, शुक़वार को लिस्ट में शेष रही महिलाओं पर बढ़ते अत्याचार के बारे में चर्चा पहले आरम्भ की जाए। सभापति महोदय : ठीक है, आप बैठ जाइये। SHRI K. KARUNAKARAN (THIRUVANANTHAPURAM): Let the Home Minister make a statement today... (Interruptions) MR. CHAIRMAN: This is not in the agenda. What is this?
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SHRI K. KARUNAKARAN : But this is a very serious issue. The Home Minister should take special care on this. This should be enquired into and whatever wrong is done, it should be rectified. The interests of minorities should be protected. MR. CHAIRMAN: Now, let the Home Minister make a statement regarding Bomb Blast in Delhi yesterday. ________