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Discussion On The Motion For Consideration Of The National Institute Of Design ... on 26 November, 2019

Seventeenth Loksabha > Title: Discussion on the motion for consideration of the National Institute of Design (Amendment) Bill, 2019 as passed by Rajya Sabha (Discussion concluded and Bill passed).

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE AND INDUSTRY (SHRI SOM PARKASH): Sir, I beg to move:

“That the Bill to amend the National Institute of Design Act, 2014, as passed by Rajya Sabha, be taken into consideration.” HON. SPEAKER: Motion moved:

“That the Bill to amend the National Institute of Design Act, 2014, as passed by Rajya Sabha, be taken into consideration.” SHRIMATI KIRRON KHER (CHANDIGARH): Hon. Speaker, Sir. I thank you for giving me this opportunity to speak on the National Institute of Design (Amendment) Bill, 2019.        At first glance, one might mistake it for a Bill of minor importance, because in essence, it gives four design institutes the status of national importance, just like the original Bill proposed to do with National Institute of Design, Ahmedabad in Gujarat. These four design institutes, which are situated in Madhya Pradesh, Assam, Haryana and Andhra Pradesh will now function as autonomous institutes. This was also proposed by the Standing Committee on Commerce in 2013. These institutes will also be able to grant degrees and diplomas to students pursuing academic courses there. ....(Interruptions)        Dada, will you kindly take your seat? ....(Interruptions) Sir, what is this? ....(Interruptions) माननीयअध्यक्ष : आप चेयर की तरफ देखकर बोलिए ।

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श्रीमतीकिरण खेर: सर, मैं ऐसे थोड़े ही हवा में बोलूँगी । ये बीच में बोल रहे हैं ।…(व्यवधान)आप कल देख लेना, who has resigned or who has not. ....(Interruptions) खाद्यप्रसंस्करणउद्योगमंत्री (श्रीमती हरसिमरतकौर बादल): अभी यहाँ से निकलकर देख     लेना ।…(व्यवधान) श्रीमतीकिरण खेर : हाँ । …(व्यवधान)

       Therefore, the very first outcome of this Bill is that it gives the National Institutes of Design a much-needed professional outlook. I am glad that this Government under the competent leadership of Shri Narendra Modi ji has granted these four institutes the status of institutes of national importance. By doing that, this Government recognises the need for this much required link between design and industry.   15.02 hrs                    (Shrimati Meenakashi Lekhi in the Chair)        Madam, a lot of industries require designers, whether it be housing or manufacturing, it can be textiles or technology, cinema, publishing, marketing. These are huge industries, which require skilled designers. There is a lot of scope for employment opportunities in these sectors, and this Government has rightly identified that scope and taken a decision that will, and I quote from the  NID Act, "act as a nucleus for interaction between academia and industry."

       Take the example of IITs. There has been a huge surge in sponsored research by MNCs, by various Ministries and by different Governments. The revenue generated through sponsored research has increased three to four times in the last 5 years. IIT Madras alone received projects worth Rs.546 crores in one financial year. IIT Delhi, Guwahati and Bombay earned more than Rs.300 crores each. These are stories of proven success. These are examples of what can be done when academia and industry interact and this is exactly what we hope that National Institutes of Design will do. By granting the status of national importance to these institutes, the Government is providing a platform to these institutions to provide design solutions to the world and not just India.

       Hon. Madam, a major initiative of this Government has been to skill people in various fields and the importance of design in such an initiative cannot be undermined. A lot of scope is there in animation, graphic designing, film and video design. I have spent decades in the film industry. From costume designing to setting up the sets, designers are required everywhere. Even in theatre, there is a massive scope and we need to explore that.

       My next point is regarding the development of tier 2 and tier 3 cities. Lately, India's growth pattern has moved towards tier 2 and tier 3 cities. With the development of more than one hundred airports and metros functioning in over a dozen cities, with several others in the pipeline, urban design acquires great importance in today's India.

       In fact, my constituency, Chandigarh, is known as one of the first planned cities in India. It continues to be one of the best examples in urban planning and modern architecture globally and an increased focus on urban design policy will be crucial in curating urban solutions of waste management, of pollution, of traffic, etc. I hope that National Institutes of Design will be instrumental in achieving that.

       At the same time, we need to bring the traditional designs of India to the forefront. India, a Union of States, has always been proud of its diversity. In every State, even within States, if you go a few kilometres, you can see the changing nature of traditions and of design. We have a large number of folk designs, tribal designs and classical designs. We have the Gond art from Madhya Pradesh. We have immense and beautiful art forms from the States of the North-East. There is Madhubani from Bihar and Kalamkari from Andhra Pradesh. There are most wonderful and diverse weaves in various our places like Banaras and all of South India.

       The artisans of these designs are based in rural parts of India. In order to preserve such art forms and develop them, an immediate intervention is required to make these art forms a part of the curriculum in the National School of Design. Further, marketing these beautifully designed products to the world, in the domestic or global markets, will directly benefit the local artisans.

       Madam, I think, we all agree that we require a space where academia and industry can interact, and have a real time interaction, which is why I would give a few humble suggestions to the hon. Minister. These are related to the constitution of the Governing Council of these institutes.

       Further, the Governing Council, as per the original Act, already has representatives from the Ministries of Finance, Higher Education and Information Technology.  I would propose that the Ministry of Tribal Affairs should be also given a representation in the Council. It could be a member of the TRIFED, the body responsible for socio-economic development of tribal people by way of marketing development of the tribal products.

Our tribes have a rich sense of design which is reflected in their crafts and incorporating these in the mainstream study of design will open a plethora of opportunities for export of such products and will eventually lead to their development.

       Lastly, I would thank the hon. Minister for bringing this Bill. I am confident that this Bill will be instrumental in helping us fulfil the aspirations of the new and modern India while taking our traditions forward and giving them modern solutions to reach out in the whole world.

       Thank you.

                                                                            

DR. KALANIDHI VEERASWAMY (CHENNAI NORTH): Madam, I thank you very much for giving me an opportunity to speak on this National Institute of Design (Amendment) Bill.

I would like to remember the families of Ford and Sarabhai who were institutional in setting up the National Institute of Design in Ahmedabad. Over a period of ten years, this idea was mooted and subsequently, it was decided to set up a National Institute of Design and it came into being in the city of Ahmedabad in 1961. Subsequently, over the past 50 or 60 years, there have been set up the National Institutes of Design by the Government in Gandhinagar, Bengaluru, Vijayawada, Jorhat, Kurukshetra and Bhopal, but sadly, though the Jorhat and Bhopal institutes were given the approval to start in 2009 and 2014, they have still not materialised and the institutes are not functional. I think, the Ministry should look into how earlier they can be started so that a lot more students can benefit.

Though the Government has only had a limited number of these institutes started, the private institutes have set up so many institutes which have given opportunities to several thousands of students who are studying different forms of designs like new media design, transportation and automobile design, apparel design, strategic design management, toy and game design etc. Earlier they were not given a bachelorhood, but now they are now being given a bachelorhood because of this Bill. That way, I feel that this Bill is going to help a lot of students to make a good livelihood in their lives.

       Talking about design, I would like to say something about the place where I come from, that is Tamil Nadu. We are known for our architecture and handlooms. While we are talking about architecture, I am reminded of a dam called Kallanai. At a time when some dams do not last even for 30 or 40 years, this Kallanai which was built 2,000 years back is still functional. Earlier it was serving an area of 70,000 acres. With the enhancement of facilities, it is now servicing an area of 1,00,000 acres of land.

       Similarly, I would like to cite the architecture of Mahabalipuram. Recently there was a visit by the Chinese President to Mahabalipuram. Prime Minister Shri Narendra Modi hosted Chinese President in Mahabalipuram. They chose this place because of the age-old ties which exist between Tamil Nadu and China in the form of trade, etc. Everybody remembers only the visit of the present Chinese President. I would like to bring to the notice House that this is not the first time a Chinese President visited here. It was already visited by Premier Zhou Enlai in December 1956. During his visit he went to a village in Tamil Nadu where he spent some time. There are some inscriptions which are still there which talk about his visit. People do still remember the visit of the then Premier of China.

       I would like to quote what he said during his visit. It is an awakening for a lot of people in our country to know about the excellence and growth of Tamil Nadu. He said:

“Although it is only a few hours since I arrived here, I have already discovered from my first contacts with the city and its people that Madras is a city which has made outstanding contributions for the mighty culture of India. We believe that we can learn many things from your city that will be useful to us.” This is what he said that Tamil Nadu is a place where a lot can be learnt. It remains true even today from where a lot things can be learnt by the people of this country from our culture and our people.

       At present there are 100 seats which are being allotted for under graduates in this basic design course and 285 seats for post-graduates. The fee is ranging from Rs. 1 lakh to Rs. 3 lakh or Rs. 4 lakh. I was wondering if some kind of concession can be given for people who cannot afford this kind of fee.

       Having talked about the greatness of Tamil Nadu, I am surprised that not one college is found in Tamil Nadu. I feel it would be proper that a college of National Institute of Design should be there somewhere in Tamil Nadu, in any district of Tamil Nadu.

I hope if the present Bharatiya Janata Party Government changes its designs then it would be a lot more educative to the people. Thank you very much Madam.

 

SHRI HIBI EDEN (ERNAKULAM): The National Institute of Design (Amendment) Bill, 2019 seeks to declare four National Institutes of Design as Institutions of National Importance. There are four States where the NIDs are coming up. They are, the National Institute of Design, Amravati, Vijayawada; the National Institute of Design, Bhopal; the National Institute of Design, Jorhat, Assam; and the National Institute of Design, Kurukshetra, Haryana.

       We are quite happy to know that more youngsters of this country are getting more opportunities, especially in the field of design and we welcome this decision. At the same time, there are minor concerns which need quite a bit of clarity. I think there are minor amendments to the Act, which are consequential in nature, such as to rename the NID, Vijayawada as NID, Amaravati and to designate the post of Principal Designer as equivalent to a Professor.  Both are to be considered necessary.

       The problems to address are these. According to the article reported in the Hindu in 2016, the establishment of these four new centres would approximately cost around Rs.540 crore and it will create 2000 more seats. It is unclear as to how much it will cost for the establishment of these new centres. 

       According to that report, it seems that this was the cost when they planned to establish new centres in the following cities – Hyderabad, Kanpur, Bhopal and Jorhat. While the plan to establish centres in Bhopal and Jorhat has remained, Centres will now be established in Vijayawada, a two-tier city Amaravati and Kurukshetra, as opposed to Hyderabad and Kanpur. It is unclear as to how much the change will affect the Budget.

       Madam, I come from a city called Cochin, where we have a lot of historical importance. We have 21 different communities across the globe including the Jewish in 16 square kilometre in a placed called Mattancherry in my constituency.   

       Historically, we have had trade – the Dutch, the Portuguese and other people had done the spice trade. The city holds a very historical position and it is also called the commercial capital of Kerala.

       So, I would like to raise a very important point. We have a lot of ancient churches, temples, structures, monuments etc. Kerala is known as ‘God’s own country’. In Cochin, we have a lot of tourists coming every year and everyone who comes, understands the architecture and history of the place. I believe that there is a lot of scope in the area of design.

       I would also like to mention that Cochin may also be included in this NID policy. We also uphold the right to have an institute in Kerala being a centre of excellence and, also it is a well-connected city. This place has a lot of industries. One NID can be considered in Cochin as well. Thank you.

 

SHRIMATI SATABDI ROY (BANERJEE) (BIRBHUM): Thank you, Madam. We support the National Institute Design (Amendment) Bill, 2019.

मध्य प्रदेश, असम, हरियाणा और आंध्र प्रदेश में इस प्रकार के संस्थान डिग्री दे रहे हैं । Then why not in West Bengal? We have the National Institute of Design in Dum Dum. उसमें भी डिजाइन की डिग्री देने की परमिशन मिलनी चाहिए । अगर इन चार संस्थानों को डिग्री देने की परमिशन मिली है, तो उसको भी मिलनी चाहिए ।

I have some suggestions and queries also. Training should be of that level वहां कैम्पस में जो इंटरव्यू होता है, उसमें लोगों को अच्छी तरह से जॉब मिलनी चाहिए । अगर इसको इंटरनेशनली कम्पीट करना है, तो faculties must be good.

मुझे लगता है कि इसमें और भी कोर्सेज़ आ सकते हैं । फैशन डिजाइन के अलावा अभी ऐसा भी हो गया है कि आप किसके साथ क्या पहनेंगे, वह भी डिजाइन में आ रहा है, जैसे- आप कौन-सा बैग लेंगे या कौन-सा शूज़ पहनेंगे । आज डिजाइन का मतलब सिर्फ फैशन नहीं, बल्कि और भी बहुत सारे डिजाइन्स हैं, जिनको इन्क्लूड करना चाहिए ।

The chairperson must be an eminent academician, scientist, technologist, professional or industrialist to be nominated. It must provide more study options for the students. It must provide reservation to various courses for the SC, ST and Other Backward Class students. The institute must provide job opportunities to the pupil on regular and fair basis. That is more important.

अगर लोगों को जॉब नहीं मिलेगी, तो डिग्री से कोई फायदा नहीं होगा । उसमें इंफ्रास्ट्रक्चर भी बहुत अच्छा होना चाहिए so that we can compete with the international level.

It also says: Institute campus means the campus of an institute as may be established by such institute at any place within India or outside. If you say ‘outside India’, then why are you calling it the national institute? I also want to know as to who will provide the fund.

जैसे IITs, IIMs में आल ओवर इंडिया कैम्‍पस इंटरव्यू हो रहे हैं, मेरी रिक्वैस्ट है कि और स्थानों पर भी कैम्पस इंटरव्यू होना चाहिए । नेशनल इंस्टीट्यूट ऑफ डिजाइन, अहमदाबाद ने जितना अच्छा किया है, वैसे ही इंडिया में और भी स्टूडेंट्स आएं और डिजाइन बढ़े ।

 

SHRI LAVU SRIKRISHNA DEVARAYALU (NARASARAOPET): Thank you, Madam, for giving me this opportunity to speak on the National Institute of Design (Amendment) Bill, 2019.

       It gives me lot of pleasure to speak on this Bill mainly because out of these four Institutes that are getting established or getting the status of national institutes of importance one is in Andhra Pradesh, that is, Vijayawada, Amravati. It is also because of the reason that the National Institute of Design (NID), which was established in Ahmedabad has done great service for our country, India. But as the speakers before me have already requested, I would also request the hon. Minister, not to restrict the National Institute of Design to 3 or 4 of them, but we should have them across the country.

We have more than 20 IITs in this country, and we can have one of the NIDs in each of the IITs or one of the NIDs in each of the NITs. I give this suggestion because of two reasons. Why do we need NIDs across the country? The first reason being that IITs have done great job for this country and done yeomen service for this country, and has put us on a higher pedestal with regard to the service industry. We have done extremely well, and we have got a lot of FDIs in respect to the service industry. But somehow, when it comes to manufacturing or design, we have always been left behind. Hence, I would request them to open even more NIDs across the country.

The second reason that I give for the Minister to open up more NIDs is that we need to take pride in the culture that we have in India. I give the example of our ex-Chief Minister, Shri Chandrababu Naidu Garu, who believed and who tried to make everyone in Andhra Pradesh believe that a capital city cannot be designed by someone in India, but the capital city has to be designed by someone staying in Singapore or London. This is the kind of confidence that he has oozed on the people of India and Andhra Pradesh. We need to take that into account. …(Interruptions) We have to take pride in our own designs, and we want that to happen in India. …(Interruptions)

       I would like to give the example of what happened in 1860s when the first ships came to Japan. …(Interruptions) They showed all the technological marvels of the western world, and the first one that they brought to Japan was the steam engines. They showed the Japanese that they could build a lot of rail routes in Japan, but the Japanese said : “No, we are not going to just take your technology and place it in our country and let you run wild.”. They said that : “You collaborate with our designers and engineers, and start the locomotive industry in Japan.”. If you look 150 years later, the best super-fast trains across the world are there in Japan right now. So, that is how much design and thinking behind it has to be given importance; that is the pride when you look at the culture; and that is the pride you have to take in your own culture.

       In conclusion, I would request the Minister to consider three things. Firstly, please look into the patents that are being filed by these NIDs because most of these patents, which are coming through, have to be related to the problems that are there in the society. They cannot be something that is not related to the society. So, please make sure that these patents are coming through. Secondly, think of the problems these NID students are taking up -- just like how Dr. Harshvardhan is doing it in the medicine sector wherein he is at least making the students to practice in the rural setting.

       In the same way, students of National Institute of Design should take problems that are there in society and answer them. For example, the problem of pollution.

 We have to have our own designs.  We cannot expect the western countries to come and show us designs. We have to have designs for our farmers where the landholding is only one acre. We cannot expect the western nations to come and show designs for our country. We want our engineers to show us designs, and we need our designs to work.

       Finally, I would request the Minister to expedite the process of allocating the budget and also to release funds so that these four Institutes would come up. Most importantly, I would request the Minister to ensure that the institute in Andhra Pradesh comes up as soon as possible.

       Thank you once again for bringing this up and giving us the Institute of National Importance. In this august House, promises were made to a lot of hon. Members from Andhra Pradesh. One of them is setting up of the Institute  of National Importance. Please fulfil those promises. I would also request the Government to fulfil other promises which were made. I would also request the Government to fulfil its promises of giving Special Category Status to Andhra Pradesh. Thank you very much for giving me this opportunity.

 

डॉ. (प्रो.) किरिट प्रेमजीभाई सोलंकी (अहमदाबाद पश्चिम):महोदया, आपने मुझे राष्ट्रीय डिजाइन संस्थान (संशोधन) विधेयक, 2019 पर बोलने की अनुमति दी है, इसके लिए मैं आपको धन्यवाद देता हूं ।

       महोदया, जोअहमदाबाद का एनआईडी है, वह मेरे संसदीय क्षेत्र में आता है । हम सब एनआईडी के लिए गौरव लेते हैं, गर्व करते हैं । मैं इसके संक्षिप्त इतिहास के बारेमें बताऊँ, तो एनआईडी, अहमदाबाद की स्थापना भारत सरकार, फोर्ड फाउंडेशन और अहमदाबाद के साराभाई परिवार, जिसमें इसरो के पूर्व चीफ स्वर्गीय श्री विक्रम साराभाई की सहायता से इसकी स्थापना की गई थी । उस संस्थान का भारतही नहीं, पूरे विश्व में एक नाम था । मैं पद्म भूषण विनर, 2011 श्री दशरथ भाई पटेल का जिक्र करूँगा कि उन्होंने एनआईडी में छात्रों की एजुकेशन में अपना बहुत महत्वपूर्ण योगदान दिया था और उसे आज भी लोग याद करते हैं । एनआईडी, अहमदाबाद की वजह से गुजरात और अहमदाबाद में उनका योगदान रहा है । अहमदाबाद एक जमाने में, it was known as textile city of India. It was also called the Manchester of India. 

इंजीनियरिंग की अहमदाबाद में बहुत अच्छी इंडस्ट्री चलती थीं और अलग-अलग इंडस्ट्रीज़ चलती थीं । इस क्षेत्र से जुड़ीइंडस्ट्रीज़ के मामले में अहमदाबाद को हब माना जाता था । एनआईडी की वजह से गुजरात और अहमदाबाद की इंडस्ट्री को एस्थेटिक रिलेटेड डिजाइन क्षेत्र में एक राष्ट्रीय पहचान मिली थी । एनआईडी की वजह से गुजरात में बहुत सारे जो डिजाइन क्षेत्र से जुड़ेहुए संस्थान हैं, ऐसे संस्थान अहमदाबाद और गुजरात में बने हैं । अगर मैं इनका जिक्र करुं तो निफ्ड, नेशनल इंस्टीट्यूट ऑफ फैशनडिजाइन जो गांधी नगर में स्थापित किया गया है, यह उससे ही एक प्रकार से जुड़ीहुई संस्था गुजरात में है । फुटवेयर डिजाइन एंड डेवलपमेंट इंस्टीट्यूट, जिसको हम एफडीडीआई के नाम से जानते हैं, वह अंकलेश्वर में बना है । ‘सेप्ट’, सेंटर फॉर एनवायर्नमेंटल प्लानिंग एंड टेक्नोलॉजी अहमदाबाद में है और कॉलेज ऑफ आर्किटेक्चर एंड डिजाइन अहमदाबाद में बना है । कहीं न कहींएनआईडी की वजह से ये सब इंस्टीट्यूट अहमदाबाद में खुले हैं ।

अहमदाबाद में जो एनआईडी बना, वहपहले डिग्री नहीं डिप्लोमा प्रदान करता था । मैं हमारे देश के यशस्वी प्रधान मंत्री नरेन्द्र भाई मोदी जी का बहुत-बहुत आभार व्यक्त करता हूं कि वर्ष2014 में नरेन्द्र मोदी जी की सरकार और हमारे मंत्री जी एनआईडी अमेंडमेंट बिल, 2014 लेकर आए और इस इंस्टीट्यूट को नेशनल इंपोर्टेंस का स्टैटस दियागया । इसकी वजह से इसकीएक बहुत बड़ी पहचान बनी ।      

जो उसमें सुधार किए गए, उसकी वजह से इसे वर्ल्डवाइड रिकग्निशन मिला । जो बिल लाया गया है, उसकी वजह से अंडर ग्रेजुएट और पोस्ट ग्रेजुएट में डिग्री प्रदान करने की क्षमता मिली, इसकी वजह से एनआइडी,अहमदाबाद को पूरे भारत में ही नहीं बल्कि वैश्विक पहचान मिली, इसकी वजह से अलग-अलग स्टुडेंट अहमदाबाद में आने लगे । देश-विदेश की रिनाउन्ड फैकल्टी अहमदाबाद आने लगी क्योंकि रिसर्च और प्रशिक्षण में इसका बहुत बड़ा योगदान रहा है । आज सरकार इस बिल को लेकर आई है । इस बिल में प्रावधान है कि अहमदाबाद जैसे कुल चार नए संस्थान देश के अलग-अलग भागों में बनाए जाएंगे । जहां तक दक्षिण भारत का सवाल है,आंध्र प्रदेश में अमरावती में इसकी स्थापना की जाएगी जो देश का हार्ट है । मध्य प्रदेश, भोपाल,पूर्वोत्तर राज्य असम के जोरहट और हरियाणा के कुरूक्षेत्र में एनआईडी संस्थान की स्थापना होगी । ये सभी अहमदाबाद की तर्ज पर बनेंगे । जिस प्रकार से अहमदाबाद में 2014 में अमेंडमेंट आया और यूजी और पीजी में जिस प्रकार डिग्री प्रदान करने का प्रावधान किया गया, जिस प्रकार से यह संस्थान बनाया गया, उसके लिए मैं अपनी सरकार और यशस्वी प्रधान मंत्री नरेन्द्र भाई मोदी जी का बहुत-बहुत शुक्रगुजार हूं ।

पचास साल पहले 1961 में एनआईडी की अहमदाबाद में स्थापना हुई थी । इसके बाद एनआईडी को मजबूत करने का अगर किसी ने कोई कार्य किया है तो हमारी सरकार और प्रधान मंत्री मोदी जी ने किया है । उसके लिए मैं उनको बहुत-बहुत धन्यवाद करता हूं । इस संस्थान में  पहले वरिष्ठ डिजाइनर का पद था । इस बिल में उसको अपग्रेड करके प्रधान डिजाइनर किया गया है और उसे प्रोफेसर के समकक्ष माना गया है । इस बिल से जो फायदा होने वाला है, इस बिल की वजह से अलग-अलग क्षेत्रों में जैसे, उत्तर पूर्व के राज्य,दक्षिण भारत के राज्य, पश्चिमी राज्यों को अलग-अलग नया अवसर मिलेगा । इसके लिए डिजाइनिंग क्षेत्र में जो स्किल्ड मैनपॉवर है, हमारे देश में अलग-अलग लोग स्किल से जुड़े हुए लोग हैं । हमारे ग्रामीण, हमारे गरीब, हमारे किसान, हमारे आदिवासी और हमारे दलित के हाथों में जो हुनर है,उस हुनर को वैल्यू एडिशन मिलेगा । मेरा कहना है कि इसकी वजह से गांव से जुड़े हुए हैं, जो अलग-अलग क्षेत्रों से जुड़ी हुई कला है, जो डिज़ाइन है, जो हुनर है, उसकी वजह से रोजगार का सृजन होगा । मैं इसके लिए सरकार का बहुत-बहुत अभिनंदन करता हूं । इंडस्ट्रियल क्षेत्र में जो डिजाइनर है जो प्राइवेट पाटर्नर हैं, उनके साथ उनका एमओयू होगा । जो गांव में बसे हैं, जो लोग पवर्तीय प्रदेश में बसे हैं, जो लोग जंगल में बसे हैं, प्राइवेट पाटर्नशिप से उनको एक नई पहचान मिलेगी । इस क्षेत्र के विकास के लिए यह बहुत अह्म रहेगा । मैं इस बिल के बारे में मंत्री जी को कुछ सुझाव देना चाहता हूं । Ahmedabad NID is an established institution. 

मेरा सरकार से एक निवेदन है कि अहमदाबाद एनआईडी की जो सीट है, उनकी जो कैपेसिटी है,स्थानीय लोगों के अलावा विदेशी लोगों को यहां आने की व्यवस्था करनी चाहिए । इससे इस इंस्टीट्यूट को वैश्विक पहचान मिलेगी । अहमदाबाद एनआईडी के स्टुडेंट जो प्रोजेक्ट्स बनाते हैं, उसमें डिजाइन की क्षमता का अवसर प्राप्त होगा । इसी वजह से माननीय प्रधान मंत्री जी ने मेक इन इंडिया का सपना दिया है,जो स्टार्ट-अप का सपना दिया है । अलग-अलग प्रदेशों के हुनर से जुड़े हुए व्यवसायी हैं, गरीब है,आदिवासी हैं,दलित हैं और आर्टिजन हैं,उनको मेक इन इंडिया में बल  मिलेगा । भविष्य में अहमदाबाद के सिवाय चार नए एनआईडी बना रहे हैं ।

मैं सरकार को सुझाव देना चाहता हूं कि हर राज्य को एक एनआईडी मिलना चाहिए । भारत एक विविधता से जुड़ा हुआ प्रदेश है । भारत के सभी प्रदेशों में हुनर है, सभी प्रदेश में लोगों में डिजाइन की क्षमता है, चाहे वह गांव का गरीब हो, चाहे वह पढ़ा-लिखा न हो, तब भी उनके हाथों में कौशल है । अगर हमें इस कौशल को बाहर लाना है तो हमें हर राज्य में इसके लिए काम करना चाहिए । इससे हस्तकला की पहचान रहेगी ।  

       मैं स्वयं एक डॉक्टर हूं । डॉक्टर होने के नाते मेरा सुझाव है कि मेडिकल क्षेत्र में अलग-अलग गैजेट्स, हैल्थ इक्विपमेंट्स होते हैं, इनमें भी एनआईडी का योगदान होना चाहिए । एनआईडी पीपल्स फ्रेंडली डिजाइन्स होता है, जैसे हैल्थ से रिलेटिड इंस्ट्रुमेंट्स होते हैं, स्टुडेंट यूजी और पीजी को प्रोजेक्ट देना चाहिए, they can evolve the things.  इसमें चाहे आर्टिफिशियल लिम्ब हो, प्रोसेसेज़ हों, हम जयपुर फुट से मंगाते हैं । अगर एनआईडी के स्टुडेंट्स की इसमें भागीदारी रहेगी तो आर्टिफिशियल लिम्ब में बहुत डेवलपमेंट कर सकते हैं और यह पेशंट फ्रेंडली रहेगा । आर्टिफिशियल लिम्ब, जो वॉकिंग स्टिक्स, हैंडीकैप्ड लोग होते हैं,जो दिव्यांग हैं, हैंडीकैप्ड फ्रैंडली बैठने की सीट होती है,दिव्यांगजनों को बैठने में कई सारी दिक्कतें रहती हैं, मैं समझता हूं कि इनके लिए नेशनल इंस्टीट्यूट ऑफ डिजाइन के स्टुडेंट्स अगर कुछ योगदान देंगे तो सीट को भी फ्रैंडली बना सकते हैं । ये सब सिलेबस में जोड़ना चाहिए ।

       मेरा एक और सुझाव है । बैचलर और अन्य प्रोग्राम की वार्षिक फीस करीब दो लाख रुपये है या कभी इससे भी ज्यादा होती है । मेरी आपसे रिक्वेस्ट है कि महिलाओं,गरीबों, अनुसूचित जाति और अनुसूचित जनजाति के लिए कुछ शिक्षावृत्ति का प्रावधान रखना चाहिए ताकि एनआईडी के पाठ्यक्रम,सिलेबस में भागीदारी निश्चित हो । माननीय नरेन्द्र मोदी जी की सरकार – सबका साथ, सबका विकास और सबका विश्वास,मंत्र को लेकर चल रही है, इसलिए हमें इसे करना चाहिए ।

       पूरे देश में नमक प्रोवाइड करने के लिए अगर कोई राज्य है तो गुजरात है । मैंने  माननीय प्रधान मंत्री जी का भाषण सुना था, तब वह गुजरात के मुख्य मंत्री थे, रेलवे के वैगन्स साल्ट भेजते हैं उसकी वजह से कोरोज़न होता है,क्योंकि वह  स्टील से बना होता है । क्यों न इसमें एनआईडी लोगों की राय ली जाए, फैकल्टी की राय जी जाए, स्टुडेंट्स की राय ली जाए और फाइबर के वैगन के जरिए भेजा जाएगा तो कोरोज़न नहीं होगा । इसके अलावा लाइट व्हीकल की वजह से फायदा होगा ।

       अहमदाबाद एनआईडी की जो पहचान है,वह पूरे विश्व में एक अलग प्रकार से बनी है । मैं इस बिल के समर्थन में बोलने के लिए खड़ा हुआ हूं । एनआईडी बिल लेकर सरकार सदन में आई है । हम सब दलगत राजनीति को दरकिनार करके सर्वसम्मति से इस बिल को पारित करें ।

आपने मुझे बिल पर बोलने का समय दिया, इसके लिए मैं आपका बहुत धन्यवाद करता हूं । इन्हीं शब्दों के साथ मैं अपनी बात समाप्त करता हूं । धन्यवाद ।

 

*m8 SHRI JAYADEV GALLA (GUNTUR): Madam, I rise to support this Bill which proposes to give NID Andhra Pradesh the tag of an Institute of National Importance, along with four other NIDs in the country, and I would like to thank the hon. Minister Shri Piyush Goyal Ji for this.

       As is mentioned in the Bill, the NID at Amaravati, a region which I represent in this House, has already been established in 2015 and started its academic session from Nagarjuna University in a temporary campus. A 50 acre plot has been given to the Ministry for constructing the required infrastructure, hostels, and other facilities. But the point is, it was promised that academic blocks, hostels and staff quarters would be completed by June of this year.

       We are at the fag end of the year now but the required infrastructure is still at a nascent stage. This is resulting in a lot of inconvenience to students as they are not able to take up their planned activities.

       If you look at clause 1 of the Bill, which deals with the short title and commencement, it clearly says that this Act will come into force on such date as the Central Government may by notification in the official gazette appoint, and different dates may be appointed for different provisions of this Act. I am not able to understand what exactly this means. Does it mean that whatever degrees and diplomas are issued by NID, Amaravati are valid only after a gazette notification under this Act is issued? That is a big question because NID started its academic classes in 2015 at Amaravati and if I am correct the fifth batch has joined. This means that at least one batch has passed out with degrees and diplomas. The question I would like to ask the hon. Minister is this. What is the fate of the students who were issued the degrees and diplomas? How are the degrees and diplomas valid when you are giving legal backing to NID, Amaravati prospectively and it is clearly indicated in clause 1 of this Bill?  I would like the hon. Minister to clarify what would happen to the degrees and diplomas issued by NID, Amaravati so far.

       If you look at the explanations to clause 7 of the Bill, there is some confusion. The first explanation says that his Act is deemed to have come into force as far as NID, Ahmedabad is concerned from September, 2014, but when it comes to NID, A.P. and the other NIDs, the explanation 2 says that the commencement of this Act will come into force as and when the provisions of the NID Act come into force. It means, it will come into force only when notification is issued as is mentioned in clause 1. So, I want to ask the reasons behind this discrimination between NID, Ahmedabad and the other NIDs in this country. What will happen, again as I asked earlier, to the degrees and diplomas issued by NID, A.P. so far?

       Finally, Shri Shekhar Mukherjee, the Director of NID, Amaravati has rightly said that design is neither a decorative art, nor is it about technology or fashion; design is an attitude, a way of life, and is not exclusive but inclusive, and should always be human-centric. However, if you look at design education in our country, it is still in a rudimentary stage, as it is a new subject for our country. It is surprising to note that we are still at a nascent stage in designing in spite of having a rich treasure of arts and crafts when compared to the western countries. I would, therefore, like to know from the hon. Minister how we can connect our talented artistes and artisans with students of design to create a new Indian renaissance of design and make India the design hub of the world.

       There is a Ph.D. programme in NID, Ahmedabad but in NID, Amaravati, there is only a bachelors and a masters programme. So, I would like to know from the hon. Minister when he is going to introduce the Ph.D. programme in NID, Amaravati.

       Finally, before I conclude, the hon. MP from YSRCP spoke about Amaravati and I need to respond to that. First of all, I would like to thank Shri Amit Shahji and Shri Kishen Reddyji for responding to my ‘Zero Hour’ submission last week where I pointed out that the capital of A.P., Amaravati has been left out of the political map. Within a day, this was realised and corrected. So, I would like to thank the hon. Ministers. But in Amaravati Rs. 9,000 crore have already been spent to build the city; another Rs. 50,000 crore worth of projects have been stranded at different stages. The election promise of Shri Nara Chandrababu Naidu in 2014 was to build a capital as great as Singapore; Singapore was brought in to help us develop the masterplan. Foster and Partners from London, known for their iconic Apple headquarters in California, were brought in as architects. The NID, Amaravati was also brought in to work along with these world-renowned architects and they are richer for the experience. It is ironic that the hon. MP from YSRCP is talking about design when all they have done since coming to power is only stopping and destroying what has already been built.

       Thank you.

 

SHRI  RITESH PANDEY (AMBEDKAR NAGAR): Thank you very much, Madam.

       The National Institute of Design Bill, 2019 seeks to amend the National Institute of Design Act, 2014, which declares the National Institute of Design, Ahmedabad as an ‘institution of national importance’ and further declares four National Institutes of Design at Andhra Pradesh, Madhya Pradesh, Assam and Haryana as ‘institutions of national importance’.

Madam, although it is a very welcome move to have these NIDs in these States, as part of institutes of national importance, but two of the biggest States in the country, UP and Bihar, and also many more States in the entire country, are yet to have their own NIDs. Such States need their own National Institutes of Design, which are of national importance. But I particularly talk of these two States as these northern States hold about 40 per cent of the country’s population. Unless we have institutes of such calibre in these States, it will not be possible to create employment and also to further business in these States. The States, where there are untapped talents, such steps would provide a welcome respite.

I would also say that it is very important that in the National Institutes of Design we also focus on handicrafts. We have a huge tradition of handicrafts and crafts, but it has not gained any place in studies or researches in our National Institutes of Design. I would suggest the hon. Minister here that the study and research of our own indigenous handicrafts should be brought into the ambit of the courses that are provided in our national institutes.     

The National Institute is set up to improve the design capabilities of India’s small and medium enterprises. We need to pay greater attention to the design of our crafts industry because without a thriving craft industry, we cannot showcase to the world and we cannot even export, our ancient traditional craft with better quality and better design. In order to do so, such courses have to be implemented in our design institutes. So far, we have introduced the National Institute of Fashion Technology, the Footwear Design and Development Centres, but handicrafts are still left out.

So, I urge upon the hon. Minister, who is present here, to kindly take this into account and also put in the study of handicrafts and handlooms that still remain outside the ambit of design institutes. Students who enter NIDs should have the option of specializing in craft and design. Unless you are going to upgrade the traditional handicrafts and artisanal skills, you are not going to be able to expand employment and you are not going to be able to expand exports. So, it is of utmost importance that we take handlooms and handicrafts under the ambit of the National Institute of Design and provide such courses. There was an hon. Member who has just mentioned here that the fees, that are charged in these institutes, are fairly high. As has been said by the hon. Member, it is over Rs. 2 lakh. खास तौर से उत्तर प्रदेश, बिहार और पूरे भारतवर्ष के एससी और एसटी लोगों को संस्थान से जोड़ने के लिए अत्यंत जरूरी है कि हमारे देश में इन संस्थानों में फीस का प्रावधान कम किया जाए और उनको फ्री एजुकेशन प्रदान करके इस डिजाइन इंस्टीट्यूट की मुख्यधारा से जोड़ा जाए ताकि वे देश की उन्नति में पूरी तरह से भागीदारी निभा सकें ।

       I would also like to point out here that the Standing Committee had also recommended that the Chairperson of the Governing Council of the Institute should be an academician from the field of design only. But currently, what we have is that the Chairperson can be an eminent academician, scientist or technologist or professional or industrialist, to be nominated by the President of India. This, I think, also needs a fair amount of study. We need to look at the fact that the National Institute of Design ought to be headed by somebody who is an expert in the field so that they may be able to strengthen the institution in itself and take it forward.

       At the end, as per section 6(1)(m), I would suggest that the Institute should establish, develop and equip courses and centres for research, workshop promoting traditional and indigenous and cultural designs of various parts of India. 

       Madam, I thank you very much for allowing me to speak and I appreciate this opportunity.  I hope that the hon. Minister will make specific provisions for fee discounts or free education for students belonging to Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes in this Bill as well.

PROF. SOUGATA RAY : Madam, who is the Minister responsible for this Bill?

HON. CHAIRPERSON : Shri Som Parkash, Minister of State for Commerce and Industry.

… (Interruptions)

HON. CHAIRPERSON : Would you please sit down, Prof. Ray?

… (Interruptions)

 

SHRI B. B. PATIL (ZAHIRABAD): Madam Chairperson, I thank you for giving me an opportunity to speak on this very important Bill today.

       First of all, it is very heartening to see that design has been brought to the forefront.  It is indeed a big recognition for the design profession in the country and this Bill will give an impetus to the activities of the Institute, giving design in India a global foothold.

       The students and faculty will get immense benefit with this recognition.  This status will also help in repositioning of the Institute globally for networking with premier design institutions, create additional opportunities for research scholars, faculty and student exchange and boost design research in the country.

       These units of NID in different regions of the country will help produce highly skilled manpower in design by providing sustainable design interventions for rural technology, crafts, handloom, small, medium and large-scale enterprises and outreach programmes for capacity, capability and institution building.

       Setting up of more branches of National Institute of Design in different regions of the country will add to producing highly skilled professionals in the field of design and will create ample job opportunities in small, medium as well as large scale enterprises.

       Madam, I would specially request the hon. Minister of Commerce and Industry for setting up a unit of the National Institute of Design at Hyderabad as there has been injustice done to our State of Telangana. The current NID centre at Vijayawada was actually sanctioned for Hyderabad but due to bifurcation, it was shifted to Vijayawada.

       A branch of the National Institute of Design should be sanctioned to Telangana or the current NID Centre at Vijayawada should be shifted to Hyderabad at the earliest.  This is my humble request to the hon. Minister of Commerce and Industry.

                                                                            

ADV. A.M. ARIFF (ALAPPUZHA): Madam, I thank you for giving me an opportunity to speak on the National Institute of Design (Amendment) Bill, 2019.

       Over the last 60 years, the Parliament has declared 134 institutions as Institutes of National Importance.  It started way back in 1956 with IIT, Kharagpur and we are now going to add four more institutions in this Session. 

       Simply declaring institutions as Institutes of National Importance is not enough.  Many institutions are facing several challenges.  We must think about those challenges seriously.  The main problem in the Institutes of National Importance is not students but faculty. They get the best students because they come through competitive examinations and we select the best but as regards faculty, we have a long way to go.   Even in IITs, the faculty shortage is anywhere between 30 and 40 per cent.  In IIMs, the faculty shortage is anywhere between 20 and 30 per cent and these are Institutes of National Importance. 

       My earnest request to the hon. Minister is to please pay attention to faculty development in the Institutes of National Importance.

       But at the same time, tuition fees and hostel fees have been increasing day by day.  The students are getting agitated against this fee hike.

       Taking this opportunity, I would request the hon. HRD Minister to intervene in the matter and settle the strikes including the strike in JNU.

       While coming back to the Bill, I do agree that the Institution like the National Institute of Design has a big role to play in social development and employment generation.  The National Institute of Design was set up to improve the design capability of India’s small and medium enterprises. NIDs  have the option of specialising in craft design because unless you are going to upgrade the traditional  handicrafts and artisan skills, you are not  going to be able to expand employment and exports either.

       So, I think that focus on craft is needed. Social innovation at the grass-root level is very important.  I would request the Government, which came forward with ‘Make in India’ to start a ‘Design in India’ Programme as it would expand employment and exports; and  it would also deepen the roots of social innovation, which our neighbouring countries are doing.

       With these words, I conclude.  Thank you.                         

                                                                      

SHRI E.T. MOHAMMED BASHEER (PONNANI):  Hon. Madam Chairperson, I am thankful to you for giving me this opportunity to speak on the National Institute of Design (Amendment) Bill, 2019.

       Madam, I feel that this Bill is in the proper direction and I also feel that it is a good move. Once this Institution is made a national institution, it would enable to grant degrees and diplomas to students.  In addition to this, they would have freedom in designing the courses, conducting the examinations and other similar kinds of things.

       Madam, marketing side is also very important. ‘Made in India’,  and ‘Design in India’ will have an impact.  It would also meet the demand of employment generation. Similarly, consumer attraction is also very much involved here.    So, in order to achieve all these things, we have to make our education system up to the international standard.

       This Bill is a good move. Instead of offering conventional types of degree courses on the higher education side, we have to foresee heralding the new era  at  the national  and international level.  India is blessed with talented young manpower.  With optimum utilisation of manpower in accordance with the developing world market, India can rise and come to the forefront.

       Upgradation of accessing design colleges to universities will create more and more avenues to us.  Employment opportunities in India and abroad  is also very attractive. Industries need such persons.

If we look at the salary side, salary part is very attractive for the designers.  For example, an average salary package, nowadays, available for an average fashion designer is Rs. 3.50 lakh.  For a graphic designer, it is Rs. 2.70 lakh;  for a UI/UX designer, it is Rs. 6 lakh; and for a textile designer, it is Rs. 3.60 lakh.  These are very attractive packages.

Among the top 15 countries in the world, India is a very less expensive country in the education sector. So, we can attract foreign students also.  The  expenses  in the Indian higher education are comparatively less. Similarly, the medium of instruction in the Indian higher education sector is English.  So, in all these ways, we can attract students from different parts of the world.

Now, I would like to emphasis on a very important point.  Giving autonomy and giving national status for higher education institutions is a very good and welcome move. But here, we have to be very careful also. What is it?  Autonomy should not be an Open General Licence for the higher education institutions to do anything according to their desire. One thing is sure.  As has been   pointed out by a Commission, autonomy should be coupled with accountability. It is the most important point.

Another important point is affordability. Affordability of all sections of society is very necessary.  It should not be unreachable for the poor students.  Similarly, like all kinds of reservation systems, this kind of system also should be strictly adhered to.

Madam, I would like to cite a very classic example.  I do not look at JNU.  I am talking about IIM, Chennai and BHU.  What is happening there?  We have given them freedom.  That is okay. But we must understand one thing. The hon. Minister is accountable to this Parliament.  He is accountable to the tax-payers.  If the university or the national institutions believe that they can live in an island of their own, which is undisputed and unquestionable, that is not acceptable. They must have accountability to the people.  But what is happening there?  Recently, the hon. Minister of Education issued a Circular on IIMs.

16.00 hrs        In the Circular, he talks about SC/ST/OBC faculty in IIMs. He has given the figures.  Those figures are with me.  In IIMs, they are denying reservation.  Some caste-based kind of consideration is prevailing in such an institution.  The hon. Minister has warned all the IIM people not to go in this direction.  It should be reachable and this kind of reservation principle should be strictly adhered to.

       My next point is this.  This country is that of poor.  We know, there are crores and crores of people below the poverty line. We should not close the doors of higher education for the poor students.  They must have access to those institutions. 

       What I am saying in brief is this.  All these kinds of things are good.  We must have a national institute.  India is having a bright future.  The most talented young manpower resource is there in India. Everywhere, we have got chances. Indians are having that much of prominence around the world.  As I said in the beginning, we can attract students from foreign countries also. India is going to have a golden era. In this regard, I would like to say that we must ensure social justice.  Social justice should be strictly adhered to.  I welcome this move.  At the same time, you must take into consideration the points which I have humbly raised.

       With these few words, I conclude.  Thank you very much.

 

श्रीपल्लबलोचन दास (तेजपुर):सभापति महोदया, मैं सबसे पहले भारत के प्रधान मंत्री श्रीनरेन्द्र मोदी जी को धन्यवाद देता हूं और उनकाआभार प्रकट करता हूं । मैं माननीय कॉमर्स एंड इंडस्ट्री मंत्री जी को भी धन्यवाद देना चाहता हूं । उन्होंने नेशनल इंस्टीट्यूट ऑफ डिजाइन मैनेजमेंट बिल, 2019 को लाकर असम में नया एनआईडी बनाने और एनआईडी को इंस्टीट्यूट ऑफ नेशनल इम्पोर्टेंस बनाने का जो सिद्धांत लिया, उसके लिए मैं असम की तरफ से धन्यवाद देता हूं । हम सभी जानते हैं कि आज के समय डिजाइन का बहुतमहत्व है और डिजाइन द्वारा हम सब कुछ चेंज कर सकतेहैं ।

16.03  hrs                       (Dr. Kakoli Ghosh Dastidar in the Chair) आज के समय हम इंस्टीट्यूट्स में पढ़ा रहे हैं और हमारे जितने भी नई पीढ़ी के विद्यार्थी हैं, उन्हें हम रिसर्च करने का, अच्छी ट्रेनिंग देने का और मार्केट रिसर्च करने के बाद पढ़ने का जो मौका और माहौल दे रहे हैं, यह बहुत जरूरी है । अगर हम उन्हें रिसर्च करने का मौका देंगे और उन्हें टेलेंट दिखाने का मौका देंगे, तो देश में एक नया माहौल बनेगा । आज एनआईडी के द्वारा यह माहौल बन रहा है । एनआईडी द्वारा हम जितने भी स्टूडेंट्स को पढ़ा रहे हैं,वे स्टूडेंट्स जा कर मार्केट रिसर्च कर रहे हैं, सबके साथ बात कर रहे हैं और सभी चीजों को देखकर वे पढ़ाई कर रहे हैं । ऐसे इंस्टीट्यूट्स सभी राज्यों में होने बहुत जरूरी हैं, क्योंकि हमारे जैसे राज्यों में आज बच्चे ऐसे कोर्सेज पढ़ रहे हैं, जिनसे हम केवल क्लर्क ही बनते हैं । हमारे लिए टेक्नीकल नॉलेज बहुत जरूरी है,क्योंकि हमारे पूर्वजों को टेक्नीकल नॉलेज बहुत ज्यादा थी और हम लोग टेक्नीकली बहुत साउंड थे,लेकिन टेक्नीकल इंस्टीट्यूट्स न होने की वजह से हम आगे नहीं बढ़ पा रहे हैं । आज असम में एनआईडी बन रहा है । अभी भी एनआईडी है,लेकिन एनआईडी केवल डिप्लोमा तक ही सीमित है और वह डिग्री नहीं दे पा रहे हैं । अभी एनआईडी मास्टर्स नहीं दे पा रहे हैं, पीएचडी नहीं दे पा रहे हैं ।

अगर यह बिल आएगा तो इस बिल के माध्यम से वह डिग्री उनको मिल पाएगी,मास्टर्स वे लोग कर पाएंगे और वे लोग पीएचडी भी कर सकते हैं । सरकार ने यह बहुत अच्छा इनीशिएटिव लिया है । हम चाहते हैं कि वहां पर जो भी कोर्सेज हैं, उनका दायरा और भी बढ़ाना चाहिए । अभी जो-जो कोर्सेज हैं,जैसे एनीमेशन फिल्म डिजाइन,सैरेमिक एंड एग्जीबिशन डिजाइन,फिल्म एंड वीडियो कम्युनिकेशन,फर्निचर डिजाइन,ग्राफिक डिजाइन,प्रोडक्ट एंड टैक्सटाइल डिजाइन ये सारे जो डिजाइन हैं, इनमें दूसरे नये-नये और हम लोगों के ट्रेडीशनल डिजाइन को भी इंक्लूड करना बहुत ही जरूरी है । मैं ज्यादा कुछ नहीं बोलूंगा । मैं यही बोलना चाहूंगा कि आसाम में जो अभी सीट कैपेसिटी 60 है, उसको बढ़ाना चाहिए । ऐसा मैं आग्रह करूंगा । वहां पर फैकल्टी भी बढ़ाना चाहिए । फैकल्टी की वहां पर जो क्वॉलिटी होनी चाहिए, वह इंटरनेशनल लैवल की होनी चाहिए ।

 यहां बिल में बोला गया  है, हम लोग कैम्पस बना सकते हैं । देश के बाहर भी हम लोग कैम्पस बना सकते हैं । इसलिए यह भी बनाना बहुत जरूरी है क्योंकि दुनिया में क्या हो रहा है, उसके साथ हमको भी कम्पीट करना है । इंटरनेशनली बच्चे को या हमारे नये स्टूडेंट को उस लैवल तक लेकर जाना है । हम लोगों ने एन.आई.डी. अहमदाबाद को देखा है । वहां बहुत सारे चेंजेज हुए हैं । एनआईडी,अहमदाबाद के थ्रू अभी इंटरनेशनली एनआईडी, अहमदाबाद को बाहर भी और   यू.एस.ए. में भी रिकॉगनेशन मिला है ।

 मैं असम के संदर्भ में बोलना चाहूंगा । हम बोलते हैं कि हमारे सबसे बड़े सोशल रिफॉर्मर जो शंकर दीप जी थे, उन्होंने उस समय वृन्दावनी वस्त्र बनाया था,जिसे वृन्दावनी वस्त्र बोला जाता है । उनका जो बनाने का हुनर है,  लंदन में वह म्यूजियम में है, अभी असम में वह नहीं है । उस लैवल तक हम लोग टैक्सटाइल,टैक्नीशियन को  आगे ले जा सकते हैं । असम में सबसे बढ़िया सिल्क मिलता   है । उस सिल्क को कितने अच्छे डिजाइन तक हम लोग ले जा सकते हैं,उसकी भी अगर वहां पर व्यवस्था हो जाए तो बहुत अच्छा रहेगा ।

       वहां पर बेल मैटल के कारीगर रहते हैं । उनका भी ट्रेडीशनल डिजाइन है । उस डिजाइन को अगर हम लोग इंक्लूड करते हैं और हमारे जितने भी ट्रेडीशनल डिजाइन्स हैं,उन डिजाइन्स के ऊपर अगर हम लोग रिसर्च करके उसी डिजाइन को अगर हम लोग एनआईडी में इंक्लूड करते हैं और उसको पढ़ाने की अगर हम लोग व्यवस्था करते हैं तो हमारे लिए बहुत फायदा होगा । इससे हमारे स्टूडेंट्स भी सीखेंगे और हमारे जो भी कारीगर्स हैं, उनको एक मार्केट मिलेगा । उस लैवल तक अगर हम लोग जाएंगे तो बहुत अच्छा होगा । एनआईडी के थ्रू मैं यह भी बोलना चाहूंगा क्योंकि एनआईडी के स्टूडेंट्स को दूसरी-दूसरी जगहों पर भी लेकर जाना बहुत जरूरी है । जो भी हमारे हायर सैकेंड्री लैवल के स्कूल्स हैं, उन स्कूलों में उन लोगों को ले जाकर उनका इंटरेक्शन करवाना बहुत जरूरी है । जितना नये-नये बच्चों के साथ वे लोग इंटरेक्शन करेंगे, उनको भी टैक्नीकली आगे बढ़ने के लिए उतनी ही प्रेरणा और अवसर मिलेगा । मैं यही आशा करता हूं कि जो अभी हम लोग नया एनआईडी बना रहे हैं, उसकी क्वॉलिटी ऑफ एजुकेशन बढ़ा रहे हैं, एक्सीलेंस बढ़ा रहे हैं, आगे भी ऐसा ही करना चाहिए, ऐसा मैं असम के संदर्भ में कहना चाहूंगा और इसके लिए मैं धन्यवाद भी देना चाहूंगा क्योंकि असम में यह एनआईडी बन रहा है और बढ़ रहा है । इसके साथ ही मैं यह भी आग्रह करना चाहूंगा कि इसको और आगे बढ़ाने के लिए इसकी सीट कैपेसिटी और सुविधाओं को भी बढ़ाया जाए । आपने मुझे बोलने के लिए समय दिया,इसके लिए मैं आपको धन्यवाद देता हूं ।

                                                                      

DR. SHASHI THAROOR (THIRUVANANTHAPURAM): Thank you very much Madam Chair. This may seem to be a routine Bill but actually covers a vital set of issues.  Actually, design plays a very important role in how our country is perceived by its global neighbours  and  citizens. And the fact is that while we have a lot happening in the design area, Indian designers are re-imagining today’s products by evoking the spirit of our country’s age-old traditions, nonetheless, the fact is that  we have to appreciate that it is not enough. In  everything to do with the conceptualisation and communication of the essentials of our nation in the globalised world, design and arts play a vitally important role. What are we doing to understand and enhance our appreciation of design? How do we take it a step further so that the capacity to deliver design is pursued by our Government?

In fact, everything we do, every single action, from the way we brush our teeth to the way we talk or we deliver a speech in Parliament, has two elements to it. There is the motive, that is the intention or purpose, and there is the execution which is the performance of the action. Now it is in the performance of the action that we see the design. Through the design we see what materials have been used, how these have been arranged, what method has been used to arrange them or combine them as one another. It is through the design of an action that you connect the appropriateness of the action to its motive or purpose.

       Whenever we see, hear, interact with a person or with a product, design heavily influences our perceptions and our ability to interact with it. And, on top of that, the synchronisation between product design and communication can increase the perceived value of a product or service in the eyes of a consumer. Indian design in turn influences how India is perceived across the world. Given that the world in the Twenty-first Century, is increasingly a world in which we are focussing on the importance of soft power, where we have to really win over the publics of the world, design is part of our crucial strength in soft power. So, any sound legislation for a design eco-system is crucial for the future of a modernising economy like India. This becomes especially relevant to India, given our young population and our competitive performance in the design sector. Now the Bill is obviously crucial in this.

       We understand now the importance of what design is. What are we doing through this Bill to encourage the study and delivery of design? Now Indians have, for centuries, proven that given the right training and environment, we can produce works of arts in substance that are unmatched in design across the world. Consider jewellery design, where India is a world leader, for example. The bedazzling shapes and material combinations that our country’s master jewellery workers constantly churn out is a testament to the significant demand and appreciation for our jewellery from the rest of the world. Same is with our robust textile industry.

       Even the successive ISRO’s Mars orbiter, Mangalyaan is linked to design. We all know and we boast about the fact that it was developed at a total cost lower than the cost of the Hollywood space movie, ‘Gravity’. It is a great example of India’s ability to embrace frugality with high technology design. But do we know that it owes a good part of this success to the modular design approach that was favoured by ISRO? So, design comes in, in all sorts of ways that perhaps, we have not taken into account in this debate.

But despite this rich history of design innovation, we are outpaced and outnumbered by other nations when we just look at things like Intellectual Property Registration Applications that are made every year. In fact, these patent trademarks of industrial designs provide a very, very good indication of design innovation. In 2017, India filed just 1,583 international patent applications as against 48,206 by Japan and 48,900 by China. I am quoting figures from the World Intellectual Property Organization. We fare even worse on the industrial design front. In 2017, India registered only 10,253 industrial designs as compared to China’s 8,57,753 and 3,53,707 of the US. So, our total number of industrial designs is just 2.97 per cent of the US and staggeringly just 1.23 per cent of China. Where are we lagging?

We talk about ‘Make in India’, ‘Start-up India’ and ‘Digital India’. While these are admirable in principle, we must associate them as an upskilling design principle. Otherwise, we will not be able to succeed in any of these, including manufacturing. There is more to manufacturing. It is just not building something. Manufacturing is production of physical goods but design involves the way in which these goods are produced, how the products are constructed and they go all the way right up to service delivery as a whole. Conceived in such a manner, design is a vital part of our economic development and overall quality of life.

       Sir, this is why I think this whole institution, the National Institute of Design is so important to us and why it is, in a common sense understanding of the term, an institute of national importance.

       But what exactly is an institution of national importance? The HRD Committee has observed that the term ‘institution of national importance’ has not been defined anywhere in this Bill. Despite 95 higher education institutions having earned this title until 29th October, this term has never been defined. No parameters have been set to evaluate an institution in terms of its academic excellence, faculty resources, infrastructure. Surely, Mr. Minister, there must be some criteria of both quality and numbers to merit such a term. I urge the Minister to insert this explanation into the Bill.

       Our institutions of national importance keep swelling. They have gone from 40 in 2013 to 95 just six years later in 2019. So, if this Government keeps wanting to create these institutions, please define the term so we understand what it is we are creating. The organisations like UGC, MHRD, AICTE all use the term. There is still nothing in the legislation. It is reasonable to expect that a term that has such significant bearing on our higher education eco-system should be well-defined in our law books. The Committee has strongly recommended that the Government must do this and I would urge you to encourage the Minister to define this. In fact, the Committee actually called for the NID Bill 2014 to define it. But it was not paid heed to either in the 2018 or the 2019 versions of the Bill, neither of which by the way had been referred to the Standing Committee. So, there is a real fault here.

       The failure to define the term INI means a failure to lay down any criterion and, therefore, without well-researched objective criteria, it will be a shame, if institutions unworthy of the title get it and institutions deserving of it don’t get it. That is what is happening.

       The Committee has recommended in the past that mere nomenclature will lead to complacency. So, what we need is for institutions to understand what they need to do to become INIs and how that limited distinction confers certain obvious prestige and benefits. The truth is that the concept is now being diluted by our present Government, which as I said has gone from 40 to 95, and every expert will tell you the status should be earned and not just conferred at random. We can pass a Bill but what has the institution done to earn the distinction in this Bill? On that we absolutely need some clarity from the Minister.

       I do want to say, Madam, that we have an example, the IIITs, Indian Institutes of Information Technology. In addition to four IIITs, 20 were proposed to be established to be operated on a private public partnership with the investment being shared between Centre, States and private industry. Then, with all of this, they came up with a certain logical panel that would decide whether these institutes should get INI status and they said that they would look into strength, competence of faculty, outcomes, learning outcomes, etc. So, at least there is a process there. Here, we do not know where this is coming from.

       As I mentioned, Madam, we are lagging behind on research and innovation. There is a recent World Bank analysis which says that our nation has fewer research and development professionals per million people than most of the countries. We had just 216 in 2015, whereas China had 1158, the US had 4279 and Japan had 5173 per million people. So, we have to make sure that the Indian workforce is equipped to do the necessary research and development. We need to make sure that we redesign curricula for the 21st Century economy. We need to create value added jobs in the manufacturing and design areas, give advanced training in various aspects of design, graphics, animation, computer design, software, architectural and industrial design. Film industry is also trying to catch up.

HON. CHAIRPERSON: Please conclude.

DR. SHASHI THAROOR : It cuts across board, Madam. Two minutes more, I just will wrap up. 

       Inability to provide desirable jobs to graduating students is a consequence of what I have described. Students graduating out of NID, Ahmedabad, which is the first one to get the INI status, has experienced a major gap between the education they received and the jobs offered to them. Last year, the luxury car manufacturer Rolls-Royce came to NID to recruit. This year, they have not come back. The question everyone is asking, is NID finding out what went wrong, was the issue with students’ performance, is our curriculum out of date, are we not upto the global standards? We should keep improving the quality of NID before we just blindly give a terminology. I do want to stress that making our design graduates acceptable to world class recruiters is in the national interest. Let us promote quality as well.

       Let us promote quality as well. Finally, let us bring design to the masses. We are still a relatively poor country. I am very proud to say that my constituency is where the birthplace of Raja Ravi Varma was. What did he do? His lithographs brought images of Gods and Goddesses to the masses, including to the people who in those days were excluded from worshipping in the temples. Just designs can actually transform a society. What is today’s lithograph by comparison? How do we ensure that this is done?

The National Investment and Manufacturing Zones were created and there were supposed to be NIDs in everyone of them. That mandate has not been fulfilled either. Therefore, the whole question of setting up the necessary digital labs has not been taken care of.

Madam, I am going to end finally with a concluding remark which is just this. The Bill is a missed opportunity. Merely conferring the status of institution of national importance without defining it, is too limited an objective for this Bill. The design sector needs a national policy on design which can then be incorporated into a legislation.

We need to develop India’s workforce, stress on research and development and digital ecosystem and ultimately move towards the future of our modernising economy. In addition to ‘Make in India’, we need to encourage ‘Design in India’. This is what will help build India in the 21st Century.

Thank you.

                                                                      

PROF. SOUGATA RAY : Madam, it is final that …* HON. CHAIRPERSON : Nothing is going on record. This is not going on record.

…(Interruptions) … * HON. CHAIRPERSON: Hon. Member Shri Anubhav Mohanty.

SHRI ANUBHAV  MOHANTY (KENDRAPARA): Madam, in 1956, when India was embarking on a scientific and industrial journey, legendry product designers of that era, Charles and Ray Eames, were invited to India so that they could recommend a programme that can fuel India’s growth in the manufacturing and industrial sector. Based on their interaction, they presented the India Report which recommended the formation of National Institute of Design and thus, NID came into existence in 1960. The date is important as design thinking at that point of time was still in infancy in the West. Thus, I salute the vision of the then Government that looked into the aspect of manufacturing from the lens of design and understood that aesthetic and usability of a product is equal to its utility.

       Design thinking is a brilliant cognitive process and at the centre of it lays empathy. Design thinking says that every product should be seen from the eyes of the customer. One should employ empathy by placing himself in the shoes of the customer. The customer should find the product non-taxing on him and should be able to interact with it in a fluid manner. In this context, the example of Amazon is important to cite as Jeff Bezos once told his designers that buying anything should not be more than three steps. The beauty of Apple products lies in design thinking. Why did Apple phone first do away with the conventional keypad? It was the first one in the industry to have only one button. It seems that it is way back to design thinking. Steve Jobs did not know how to do computer coding. He only knew how to design consumer interaction with the product. Thus, his whole life was a quest to have better interaction with the product.

       The National Institute of Design aspires to do the same. In our campuses, there might be so many Steve Jobs thinking how to design something big, the next big thing. We have to support them and this Bill does that precisely by giving all they need as our support.

By giving the ‘institution of national importance’ tag to the newly established NIDs as well, we are elevating the brand of NID and increasing their confidence. The students of NID are at the forefront of much cutting-edge work. From designing survival kits to designing the newly launched uniforms of the Marshals in the Rajya Sabha, NID students have been making us proud. I thank the Government for bringing the National Institute of Design (Amendment) Bill, 2019.

Before I conclude I just wanted to bring to your notice that Odisha is the land of art and culture and many more things. It is attracting many tourists to its land. One such place is known as Pipili, a small village in Puri known for its art. Recently it has got a special mention in one of the top most production houses of India, Yashraj Films, in Sui Dhaga movie. Those who have seen the movie Sui Dhaga, must be aware of this. …(Interruptions) This movie casts Varun Dhawan and Anushka Sharma has played out a tough task of designing movie’s logo and they went all over the country to design the logo of the movie and artists from different parts of India put their efforts to get the work done within the given time.

       Odisha’s Pipili village has contributed its part with its stunning designs in Chandua, the town which is famous for designing beautiful Applique handicrafts. It is not only that. Odisha has got a space in the recently launched movie trailer. YRF decided to make an exclusive video on Pipili so that it will be able to reach out to millions of people across the globe.

       While concluding, I would like to remind the House of the promise of NID to establish an Institute in Bhubaneswar that has been pending since 2009. My Chief Minister, hon. Shri Naveen Patnaik is passionate about bringing NID to Odisha and we have been raising the same demand for years. Odisha had been shortlisted for the same. But the final decision did not see my State make the cut. Odisha has got huge potential with regards to textile and stone crafting among the several other art forms. Thus, NID in the State shall propel the growth of these sectors in the State.

       I would like to request the Minister to look into the above stated demand and bring the next NID to the State of Odisha. I expect the hon. Minister to kindly keep in mind our request and fulfil the demand of Odisha, which is pending for years, as an honour to Odisha and as an honour to art and culture which has been attracting the whole world. Thank you so much.

SHRIMATI MALA ROY (KOLKATA DAKSHIN): Madam, designating National Institutes of Design in Andhra Pradesh, Madhya Pradesh, Assam and Haryana as institutions of national importance was a recommendation of the Standing Committee, which has now been incorporated in this Bill. The Amendment will bring about the change in order to be able to now grant degrees and diplomas. This did not exist before as these institutes were registered as Societies under the Societies Registration Act, 1860. Thus, it is a welcome amendment as was suggested by the Committee as it will encourage more students to take up design courses in various sectors and build skilled professionals in our country.

       This Bill has gone through its due parliamentary procedure and has taken note of the recommendations from various stakeholders. It has provisions that are beneficial to all. We would like to emphasise that this procedure should be followed for all Bills that require special scrutiny in Parliament.

       The Standing Committee had also recommended that the Chairperson of the Governing Council of the Institute should be an academician from the field of design only. Currently, the Chairperson may be a person who is an eminent academician, scientist or technologist or professional or industrialist to be nominated by the Visitor, that is the President of India. It is vital that the Government also brings about this amendment before this Bill becomes an Act.

       This Bill will make design courses more inclusive and will bring forth a revolution in design in India. With the Institutes receiving the ‘institutes of national importance’ status, the rich culture and heritage of India along with modernisation will have a larger scope to flourish and create innovation.

       I would also like to point out the importance of designing a relevant curriculum framework in national design institutes. This will prepare the students for the dynamic modern industry of design. Being in sync with the industry, its ever-changing needs should be a crucial aspect of the course structure of these institutes.

       Greater attention should be paid to the crafts industry including the tribal art forms.  NID students should have the option to specialise in these areas. This will give a much-needed boost to MSMEs in the country.

       Madam, before I conclude, I must address two crucial issues. First, we must realise that we have made a mockery of our institutions as we are declaring non-existing institutions as institutions of eminence like the yet-to be-constructed Jio University.

       Secondly, it is my duty to highlight the current situation of India’s greatest institute of national importance which is Viswa Bharati University in the State of West Bengal.

Kabiguru Rabindranath Tagore has said in his last letter to Mahatma Gandhi that “Viswa Bharati is like a vessel carrying the cargo of my life’s best treasure and I hope it may claim special care from countrymen for its preservation.” It is with great dismay that I say that Rabindranath’s greatest treasure, the Viswa Bharati University, is being compromised today with the deployment of CISF paramilitary forces on its premises due to the administration’s unwillingness to respond to the needs of their own students.

I would urge the Government, especially the Home Ministry, to resist from deploying the paramilitary forces at the drop of a hat and preserve our crown jewels, preserve our children’s lives, preserve the future of this great nation, preserve the dream that Tagore had. Thank you, Madam.

   

SHRI P. RAVEENDRANATH  KUMAR (THENI): Hon. Chairperson, Madam, thank you for the great opportunity to speak on the National Institute of Design (Amendment) Bill, 2019, which I support.

       I welcome and congratulate our Hon. Prime Minister, Shri Narendra Modi Ji and the hon. Minister who has formulated the Bill to amend the National Institute of Design Bill, 2014, thereby seeking to declare four National Institutes of Design in the States of Andhra Pradesh, Madhya Pradesh, Assam and Haryana as institutions of national importance at par with the National Institute of Design at Ahmedabad.

       Currently, these four institutes are registered as societies under the Societies Registration Act, 1860 and they do not have the power to grant degrees or diplomas. On being declared institutions of national importance, the four institutions will be granted the power to grant degrees and diplomas.

       Our hon. Minister of Industry and Commerce, Shri Piyush Goel Ji already assured, while passing this Bill in Rajya Sabha, that the autonomy of these four NIDs will not be affected even after the passage of the Bill.

       Madam, my State, Tamil Nadu, is world famous for its culture which is related to design with its arts and sculptures. People of Tamil Nadu are very much talented in various design interventions. For example, we can say our former President Abdul Kalam Ji, present Chairman of ISRO, Shri Sivan, Google CEO, Shri Sundar Pichai are all from Tamil Nadu State. So, I request through you, Madam, the Hon. Minister to consider and take necessary action to establish a new NID centre in my State of Tamil Nadu.

Finally, I strongly believe that declaring NIDs as institutions of national importance in different geographical regions of the country will certainly help to produce highly skilled manpower in design which, in turn, will automatically create job opportunities, both direct and indirect, by providing sustainable designing interventions for crafts and handlooms, rural technology, small, medium and large-scale enterprises. 

       So, I support this Amendment Bill keeping in view all these good factors. Thank you very much.

 

श्री हनुमान बेनीवाल (नागौर):सभापति महोदया,सदन में आज राष्ट्रीय डिजाइन संस्थान (संशोधन) विधेयक, 2019 पर चर्चा हो रही है । इस बिल के माध्यम से चार स्टेट्स के चार संस्थानों को इससे जोड़ा जाएगा । वहां के छात्र-छात्राओं को डिग्री और डिप्लोमा मिलेगा । उन्हें निश्चित रूप से इसका लाभ मिलेगा और उन्हें रोजगार के नए साधन मिलेंगे । मैं इस बिल के समर्थन में अपनी बात कहना चाहता हूं ।

       महोदया, वर्ष 1961 में स्थापित वैज्ञानिक और औद्योगिक शोध के लिए वर्ष 1956 की औद्योगिक पॉलिसी के संकल्प के तहत इसकी स्थापना हुई थी । इस बिल के आने से हमारे चार स्टेट्स-आंध्र प्रदेश के अमरावती, मध्य प्रदेश के भोपाल, असम के जोरहाट और हरियाणा के कुरूक्षेत्र के नए केंद्रों को इस कानून के दायरे में लाकर उन्हें राष्ट्रीय महत्व के संस्थान घोषित किया जाएगा । इसका बहुत बड़ा फायदा इन इंस्टीट्यूट्स में जो बच्चे पढ़ रहे हैं, उनको मिलेगा । उनके अंदर खुशी की लहर है, लेकिन इन इंस्टीट्यूट्स से आज से पहले जो बैचेज निकले थे,उनके बारे में भी यहां क्वेश्चन रेज किया गया था । उनको भी कैसे इसका फायदा मिले,निश्चित रूप से इसके बारे में भी सरकार के संज्ञान में मैं अपनी बात लाना चाहता हूं । मैं विश्वविद्यालय और कॉलेज में राजनीति में रहा हूं और मैंने बेरोजगारों के लिए रोजगार हेतु हमेशा आंदोलन किए हैं । मैं रोजगार को लेकर सदन में भी हमेशा अपनी बात रखता हूं ।

       महोदया, मैं माननीय मोदी जी की सरकार को धन्यवाद दूंगा कि जबसे सरकार का गठन हुआ,उसके बाद एक से बढ़कर एक अच्छे बिल आए । हमें उम्मीद है कि बेरोजगारों और किसानों के लिए भविष्य में भी अच्छे बिल आएंगे । सबसे पहले धारा-370और 35 ए जरूरी था । उसके बाद राम मंदिर का फैसला जरूरी था । कांग्रेस के लोग, विशेषकर श्री अधीर रंजन जी खुश हो रहे हैं कि महाराष्ट्र में यह हो गया,वह हो गया । उसे छोड़िए, कितने स्टेट्स से कांग्रेस जाने वाली है,आप उसकी चिंता कीजिए । आपको ज्यादा खुश होने की आवश्यकता नहीं है । हो सकता है कि तीन, चार पार्टियां मिलकर,आप लोग वहां कुछ कर पाएं, लेकिन ज्यादा खुश होने की आवश्यकता नहीं है । राजस्थान और मध्य प्रदेश आपके हाथ से कभी भी निकल सकते हैं । आपको इसकी चिंता करनी चाहिए ।

       महोदया, राष्ट्रीय डिजाइन संस्थानों को राष्ट्रीय महत्व के संस्थान का दर्जा मिलने से डिजाइन, शिक्षा सामाजिक तौर पर अधिक समावेशी होगी । इसके अलावा इससे कृषि, स्वास्थ्य सेवा एवं परिवहन सहित विभिन्न क्षेत्रों में डिजाइन की जरूरतों को पूरा करने में भी मदद मिलेगी । आज देश को इस बात की खुशी है कि आज जिन चार संस्थानों को राष्ट्रीय महत्व का दर्जा दिया जा रहा है,वे डिग्री,डिप्लोमा या सर्टिफिकेट नहीं दे सकते थे, क्योंकि वे सोसायटी एक्ट के दायरे में थे । यह बिल पास होने के बाद इस क्षेत्र से जुड़े छात्रों को डिप्लोमा या डिग्री प्राप्त होने का अधिकार मिलेगा । प्रत्यक्ष व अप्रत्यक्ष रूप से रोजगार के साधन बढ़ेंगे ।

महोदया, माननीय प्रधान मंत्री जी की सोच है कि जिस कांग्रेस ने गांव में अंतिम छोर पर बैठे हुए व्यक्ति के लिए पिछले 70 सालों में गड्ढे खोदे,उसके विकास को अवरूद्ध किया,उन गड्ढों को  भरकर विकास की नई बुलंद इमारत इस देश में खड़ी करेंगे । आज पता नहीं क्यों कांग्रेस के लोग खुश हो रहे हैं? श्री अधीर रंजन जी सोच रहे होंगे कि दो दिन हमने हाउस में विरोध किया और सुप्रीम कोर्ट का फैसला आ गया । आपकी यह खुशी ज्यादा दिन नहीं रहेगी । आप चिंता मत कीजिए । आपकी सरकार नहीं चलेगी । वहां भी आपसी खींचतान हो जाएगी ।

सभापति महोदया: कृपया बिल पर चर्चा करें ।

श्री हनुमान बेनीवाल : महोदया, वैसे तो मैं बिल पर बोल रहा था, लेकिन राजनीति पर आ गया । मैं वापस बिल पर आ रहा हूं । मैं चाहूंगा कि सरकार ज्यादा से ज्यादा ऐसे बिल लाए और मैं प्रधान मंत्री जी से व्यक्तिगत रूप से भी आग्रह करूंगा कि हमारे सेंट्रल सर्विसेज के अंदर जितने भी पद खाली हैं,उन सब पदों को भरा जाए । 

ज्यादा से ज्यादा ग्रामीण छात्र,जो हमारे गांव के अंतिम छोर पर बैठे हैं, उनको किस तरह से अच्छी शिक्षा मिले और कैसे आम आदमी दिल्ली और जयपुर में अपने बच्चे-बच्चियों को पढ़ा सके, इस दिशा में प्रधान मंत्री जी चिंतित हैं । पहली बार किसी ने चिंता की है कि गरीब,जो अंतिम छोर पर बैठा है, उसको अच्छा घर मिले, उसको अच्छी चिकित्सा मिले, उसको अच्छी शिक्षा मिले । आज से पहले यह किसी की सोच नहीं थी, तभी तो ये सारे के सारे विधेयक इस सरकार को लाने पड़ रहे हैं, पूर्ववर्ती सरकारें नहीं ला पायीं ।

मैं इस बिल का समर्थन करता हूं और सरकार को धन्यवाद देता हूं कि वह ऐसे नये-नये बिल लेकर आए, जिनसे आम आदमी, गरीब आदमी के हितों की रखवाली हो सके । धन्यवाद ।

 

श्री मलूक नागर (बिजनौर):महोदया, मैं आपका आभारी हूं कि आपने मुझे बोलने का मौका दिया ।

       महोदया, डिज़ाइनिंग और फैशनिंग की बात हो तो हम देखते हैं कि टॉप लेवल,वर्ल्ड लेवल की जगहों पर ग्रामीण कल्चर दिखाई देता है । मैं कहना चाहता हूं कि ग्रामीण कल्चर अगर किसी की डिज़ाइन में दिखता है, चाहे वह कपड़े की डिजाइन में हो, बिल्डिंग की डिजाइन में हो या कालोनी की डिजाइन में हो,उसको प्रोत्साहन मिलना चाहिए और उसको सरकार की तरफ से कुछ ऐसे इंसेंटिव मिले,जिससे उनकी हिम्मत बढ़े और हमारे देश की संस्कृति को बढ़ावा मिले । दूसरा,टॉप लेवल पर जाकर जब हम देखते हैं, यह लुटियंस जोन का इलाका है । जब यह जगह बनी तो इसके आर्किटेक्ट सर एडवर्ड लुटियंस थे । उन्होंने पूरी नई दिल्ली को डिजाइन किया,जिसे लुटियंस जोन कहते हैं । वह आर्किटेक्ट का नाम था । जब पार्लियामेंट और राष्ट्रपति भवन को डिजाइन करने की बात आयी तो सर एडवर्ड लुटियंस ने कहा कि मेरे पास तो वर्क लोड है और उन्होंने अपने दोस्त को इसके लिए बुलाया । एक ऐसी दिल्ली की डिजाइन की है,लंदन, यूके से भी बेहतर डिजाइन की है । पूरे वर्ल्ड में ऐसी जगह कहीं देखने को नहीं मिलती है ।

मैं यह कहना चाहता हूं कि हमारे देश के जो टेलेंट्स हैं, उनको बढ़ावा दिया जाए और वह बाहर जाने की बजाय, सरकार ऐसा कोई सिस्टम करे कि वह हमारे देश में रुक सकें और जो लोग बाहर जाकर, जैसे मुम्बई में एक आर्किटेक्ट बिजॉय जैन हैं । वर्ल्ड की टॉप यूनिवर्सिटीज़ को आईवीवाई लीग कहते हैं, उनमें वर्ल्ड की सात टॉप यूनिवर्सिटीज हैं, जबकि हमारे देश की यूनिवर्सिटी की शुरूआत पांच सौ नंबर के बाद होती है । 501 पर अहमदाबाद की एक यूनिवर्सिटी आती है । बिजॉय जैन को हमारे देश की सरकार प्रमोट नहीं कर पाती है, तालमेल नहीं बैठा पाती है । वह ऑक्सफोर्ड,हार्वर्ड और फिलाडेलफिया में लेक्चर देने जाते हैं ।

मैं आपके माध्यम से सरकार से कहना चाहता हूं कि जो हमारे देश की प्रतिभाएं हैं, उन लोगों को अट्रैक्टिव पैकेज दें और जो हमारे देश की कालोनी और बिल्डिंग्स बढ़िया डिजाइन हो रही हैं, उनमें उनकी फीस और रेप्यूटेशन को ध्यान में रखकर अट्रैक्ट करें,जिससे वे यहीं डिजाइन कर सकें । आज जिस सब्जेक्ट पर बात हो रही है,इसका बहुत बड़ा दायरा है । करीब 10-11 साल पहले मुम्बई में अम्बानी साहब ने अपने मकान का डिजाइन बनाने की बात की तो सर नॉर्मन फोस्टर हैं, अब तो वे लॉर्ड हैं, वे आर्किटेक्ट हैं, उनको कांटेक्ट किया और उन्होंने कहा कि मैं अपना हवाई जहाज भेज रहा हूं, आप आ जाइए और मेरे मकान का डिजाइन कर दीजिए । उनकी ईगो को चोट लगी और उन्होंने कहा कि अम्बानी साहब,मैं अपना हवाई जहाज भेज देता हूं, आप आ जाइए और उनका ऑफर उन्होंने रिजेक्ट कर दिया । मिस्टर रोजर हैं, वह भी वर्ल्ड फेमस आर्किटेक्ट हैं । इसमें इतना स्कोप है, जिसकी कोई थाह नहीं है । सरकार आज जो बिल लेकर आयी है, हम इसका समर्थन करते हैं और धन्यवाद देते हैं । लेकिन कुछ चीजों का इसमें एडिशन किया जा सकता है ।

       आज हम लोग जहां पर बैठे हैं, वह राजधानी है और राजधानी के एनसीआर हिस्से में मेरठ भी आता है । संजीव बालियान जी यहां पर बैठे हैं । वह मुजफ्फरनगर से आते हैं । राजेन्द्र अग्रवाल जी मेरठ से आते हैं । गिरीश चन्द्र जी नगीना से आते हैं । अगर केन्द्र सरकार और प्रदेश की सरकार आपस में तालमेल बैठाकर मेरठ में इस इंस्टीट्यूट को स्थापित कर दे, तो पश्चिमी उत्तर प्रदेश के लोगों को बहुत बड़ा फायदा मिलेगा । मैं आपको बहुत धन्यवाद देता हूं और आपसे यह प्रार्थना करता हूं कि इसको मेरठ में बना दिया जाए । बिजनौर के भी, नगीना के भी, बागपत के भी और पश्चिमी उत्तर प्रदेश के बच्चों को इससे बहुत बढ़ावा मिलेगा,लोगों को रोजगार मिलेगा और उनकी तरक्की होगी । उनके सामने पूरे संसार में काम करने के लिए एक रास्ता खुलेगा ।

 

SHRI H. VASANTHAKUMAR (KANYAKUMARI): Madam, today is the 70th Constitution Day. The Constitution is a success in India. We are all celebrating that success. We are moving a relatively significant Bill because we are declaring four National Institutes of Design as institutions of national importance.

Madam, over the last sixty years, Parliament has declared 134 institutions as institutions of national importance. We will add four more institutions this time. These 138 institutions should be the pride and jewel of India, not non-existing institutions which are declared as Institutes of Eminence. Madam, the establishment of National Institute of Design goes back to the Kamraj and Nehru period. It is fashionable to decry and criticise the Congress era but most of the institutions of science & technology and higher education were established in the Congress period.

       The Government of India asked for recommendations on a training programme on design that would serve as an aid to the small industries. That would resist the present rapid deterioration of design and quality of consumer goods. The Government wanted to explore the problems related to design and to make recommendations for a training programme. A design specialist toured throughout India and carefully studied many centres of design, handicrafts and general manufacturers.

       The National Institute of Design was set up to improve the design capability of India’s small and medium enterprises. I would request the hon. Minister that we need to pay greater attention to the design of our crafts industry. We have a throbbing and thriving crafts industry. It has enormous employment potential and export potential but this will improve only if our designs improve. Over the last few years, we set up National Institutes of Fashion Technology and the Footwear Design and Development Centres, but the main crafts, the handicrafts and the handlooms remained unattended to from the point of view of design. I would request the hon. Minister to pay greater attention to crafts.

       Let the students who enter NIDs have the option of specialisation in craft design because unless you are going to upgrade the traditional handicrafts and artisanal skills, you are not going to be able to expand employment opportunities and exports. So, I think the focus on craft is needed. Social innovation at the grassroots level is very, very important. I think the NID which has done excellent work is well equipped to handle the challenges.

       Design in this country is unique in its insight, in its quality and in the depth and width of its thinking. The famous phrase of the Gita refers to a man’s right to work but never to the fruits. I wish the Government to explore the existing symbols of India.

       I request the Government to come forward to set up a new National Institute of Design in my constituency, Kanyakumari, the tip of India to expand employment, to expand exports and deepen the roots of social innovation.

In 1954, Shri Kamraj was the Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu. He studied only till 6th standard. In Kanyakumari, there were two mountains from where water could not pass. The man who studied till 6th standard, Shri Kamraj, designed and constructed the Mathur Bridge to link those two mountains at the height of 120 ft. Even the engineers refused to construct that bridge because that was not possible.

While walking on this bridge, one will find that, on the one side, there is running water and, on the other side, people can walk.

All engineers told him that it was not possible. But the man who ruled Tamil Nadu for nine years, Shri K. Kamaraj, constructed the bridge. It is now called Mathur Thotti Palam. Now, people are coming from all over the world, engineers are coming from all over the world to see how a man has constructed this bridge.

       So, we, as the people of Congress and also as Kamaraj’s people, are always working hard. We want more help from the Government to develop Tamil Nadu as well as Kanyakumari.

       Thank you very much.

 

श्रीरामप्रीतमंडल (झंझारपुर):सभापति महोदया, मैं इस बिल के समर्थन में खड़ा हॅूं । राष्ट्रीय डिजाइन संस्थान के साथ उद्योग जगत की भागीदारी पूर्णतया आवश्यक है, क्योंकि अंतत: डिजाइनिंग उपभोक्ताओं के लिए ही होती है । संस्थानों में संगत क्षेत्र के संकाय में सुधार करने की आवश्यकता है । शैक्षिक जगत और विश्वविद्यालय के विचारों के साथ ही, विभिन्न क्षेत्रों के कलाकारों से सहायता, सहयोग तथा विचार भी प्राप्त किए जाते हैं । हमारे शिल्प उद्योग के डिजाइन पर अधिक ध्यान देने की आवश्यकता है । प्रधान डिजाइनर के साथ ही, वेतनमान के उच्चतम निर्धारण के उद्देश्य से पंजीयक का पद भी प्रदान कियाजाए । ओडिशा, नालंदा, बिहार और तमिलनाडु की कलाओं को प्रोत्साहन देने की आवश्यकता है ।

महोदया, आईआईटी, आईआईएमएस, आईआईएससी, आदि जैसे प्रतिष्ठा के राष्ट्रीय संस्थानों के लिए ही वित्त पोषण की जरूरत है । मैं बिहार राज्य में भी एक राष्ट्रीय डिजाइन संस्थान खोलने की अनुमति की मांग करता हॅूं ।

उत्पादों और सेवाओं की गुणवत्ता सुधारने में डिजाइन के बढ़तेमहत्व को समझते हुए और उससेदेश के आर्थिक तथा औद्योगिक विकास को गति प्रदान करने के लिए भारत सरकार ने फरवरी, 2007 में राष्ट्रीय डिजाइन नीति (एनडीपी) की स्वीकृति दी थी । डिजाइन संबंधी शिक्षा सामाजिक रूप से समावेशी बन सके और कृषि, स्वास्थ्य देखभाल, परिवहन, ग्रामीण आवास, ग्रामीण और शहरीस्वच्छता सहित भारतीय अर्थव्यवस्था के अनेकअन्य क्षेत्रों में डिजाइन संबंधी आवश्यकताओं पर ध्यान दियाजा सके । इससे प्रतिभा कौशल और प्रशिक्षण के साथ राष्ट्र और विश्व को सेवा प्रदान करने के लिए उच्च स्तरीय कौशल वाली श्रम शक्ति तैयार करने में भी सहायता मिलेगी । इसके अतिरिक्त, रणनीतिक दूरदर्शिता और मानवकेन्द्रित प्रक्रियाओं जैसी महत्वपूर्ण डिजाइन पहलों के माध्यम से हमारी धरती को बचाएरखने के लिए सतत् विकास लक्ष्यों की प्राप्ति में सहायता मिलेगी । ग्लोबल वार्मिंग की बात करते हैं, इसमें भी मदद मिलेगी ।

महोदया, देश के विभिन्न क्षेत्रों में नए नेशनल इंस्टीट्यूट ऑफ डिजाइन की स्थापना इंस्टीट्यूशन ऑफ नेशनल इम्पॉर्टेंस की तरह किए जाने से डिजाइन के क्षेत्र में अत्यधिक कुशल श्रमबल तैयार करने में मदद मिलेगी । इससे शिल्प, हथकरघा, ग्रामीण तकनीक, लघु, मंझोले एवं बड़े उद्यमों के लिए स्थायी डिजाइन संसाधन उपलब्ध कराते हुए प्रत्यक्ष और अप्रत्यक्ष तौर पर रोजगार के अवसर सृजित होंगे । साथ ही, इससे क्षमता, दक्षता एवं संस्थान निर्माण के लिए विभिन्न कार्यक्रमों को भी बल मिलेगा । धन्यवाद ।

   

SHRI ADHIR RANJAN CHOWDHURY (BAHARAMPUR): Thank you, Madam, for allowing me to speak. Actually, all the illustrious Members of this House have spelt out on this issue in such an elaborate manner, I think, nothing much could be added further. However, I would like to say that it is really a beautiful subject, which is called ‘design’. If you see, the entire existence of the universe, of the human being, is based on design. The nature has been designed by the supreme being.

It is said that Vishwakarma created the world.  He was a great designer. In each and every aspect of our life, everything is designed. Our birth is designed. Our way of life is designed. We cannot go beyond the design.

       I would like to draw the attention of the hon. Minister to the Financial Memorandum. It is estimated that there would be an expenditure of approximately Rs. 434 crore for the establishment of these institutes. Accordingly, a sum of Rs. 434 crore was sanctioned during the Twelfth Plan; non-recurring expenditure is estimated at Rs. 336.72 crore and recurring expenditure is estimated at Rs. 97.28 crore. My question is this.

आपको चार इंस्टीट्यूट्स बनाने हैं और आप इन चार इंस्टीट्यूट्स में 474 करोड़ रुपये बांट दीजिएगा तो एक-एक इंस्टीट्यूट को ज्यादा से ज्यादा 100 करोड़ रुपये के आस-पास मिलेगा । यह क्या हाथी के पेट में इलायची के दाने के बराबर नहीं होता है । एक-एक इंस्टीट्यूट के लिए 100 करोड़ रुपये में क्या होगा? कल पेपर में देखते थे कि कहीं हिन्दुस्तान के किसी राज्य में सरकार बदलने के लिए …*जब हिन्दुस्तान के एमएलए के भाव… * लेकर आप एक-एक इंस्टीट्यूट को दान करते हैं और कहते हैं कि मैंने बहुत कुछ कर दिया । इससे मैं सहमत नहीं हूं । …(व्यवधान)

माननीयसभापति  : गणेश जी, बैठ जाइये ।

…( व्यवधान)

श्रीअधीर रंजन चौधरी : इसलिए मैं चाहता हूँ कि इसमें और ज्यादा राशि दी जानी चाहिए,और ज्यादा राशि का इंतजाम कर देना चाहिए । अगर आप सही ढंग से इन इंस्टीट्यूट्स को बनाना चाहते हैं, क्योंकि आप इनको किस पर छोड़ रहे हैं? After the institutes become fully operational and start generating revenues through fees and consultancy income, dependence on Government grants for recurring expenditure will gradually reduce.

आपको यह लग रहा है कि इंस्टीट्यूट बनाते ही यह कमाना शुरू कर देगा, फीस लाएगा,कंसल्टेंसी इनकम करने लगेगा । इनका सरकार पर निर्भर करना कम हो जाएगा, लेकिन इसके मद्देनज़र अगर आप इन इंस्टीट्यूट्स को राशि प्रदान करने में कंजूसी करेंगे तो आपका जो मकसद है, यह मकसद पूरा होने की सम्भावना नहीं है । It has an enormous potential for generating jobs and employment. That is why my suggestion is that you should infuse more funds into these institutes. मेरे बंगाल के एक साथी ने कहा कि बंगाल में एक ऐसा इंस्टीट्यूट होना चाहिए । मैं इससे सहमत हूँ,क्योंकि हमारे इतने बड़े देश में यह नेशनल इंस्टीट्यूट डिजाइन, इसका अगर आप सही ढंग से इस्तेमाल करना चाहते हैं तो इनको और विस्तृत रूप से सारे राज्यों को देना चाहिए ।

16.58 hrs                       (Hon. Speaker in the Chair) सारे राज्यों में न हो,कोई ग्रुप,ईस्टर्न इंडिया में कुछ नहीं है । नॉर्थ ईस्टर्न इंडिया में जोरहाट में दिया है, लेकिन ईस्टर्न इंडिया इतना बड़ा ज़ोन है, उसमें किसी जगह यह डिजाइन इंस्टीट्यूट नहीं है । एक आपने आंध्र प्रदेश में दिया है । ठीक है, इसमें हमें कोई आपत्ति नहीं है । एक नहीं, दो दीजिए, सौ दीजिए,लेकिन ईस्टर्न इंडिया इतना बड़ा ज़ोन है । आपके बगल में ओडिशा है । हमारे मंत्री जी ओडिशा के हैं । झारखंड है, बिहार है, बंगाल है । कुल मिलाकर वहां एक डिजाइन इंस्टीट्यूट होना चाहिए । मुझे लगता है कि हमारे मंत्री जी भी हमें सपोर्ट कर रहे हैं ।

       मैं दूसरी बात यह कहना चाहता हूँ, हमारे मित्र शशि थरूर जी ने भी यह बात उठाई कि नेशनल इंस्टीट्यूट इम्पोर्टेंस के तौर से, एमिनेंस के तौर से इसका डेफिनेशन क्या होगा? इसका पैरामीटर, आज तक स्पष्टीकरण नहीं हो रहा है । आप कह रहे हैं कि हम इन इंस्टीट्यूट्स को और ज्यादा मौका दे रहे हैं, क्योंकि यह पहले सोसायटी एक्ट में था, अभी इससे आगे निकल कर डिग्री और डिप्लोमा देने का मौका मिलेगा । मैं इस विषय पर जानना चाहता हूं,आप जानते हैं कि जियो इंस्टीट्यूट में इनका कोई एक्सीलेंस नहीं था । कभी कोई स्टूडेंट भर्ती नहीं हुआ था, लेकिन जियो इंस्टीट्यूट को कैसे नेशनल इंस्टीट्यूट ऑफ इम्पोर्टेंस और एमिनेंस बना दिया गया, यह बड़ा सवाल है । जियो इंस्टीट्यूट के साथ क्या संबंध है कि यह जियो इंस्टीट्यूट,कोई स्टूडेंट नहीं है, कोई ढांचा नहीं है,कुछ नहीं है,लेकिन नेशनल इंस्टीट्यूट ऑफ एमिनेंस बना दिया गया ।

17.00 hrs ये दो-तीन मुद्दे हैं । मैं आपको यह सलाह देना चाहता हूँ कि आप प्राइवेट इंडस्ट्री को इसमें शामिल कीजिए । अगर इंडस्ट्री के साथ आपके इंस्टीट्यूट का तालमेल अच्छा होगा, तो आपको लाभ होगा और यह हिन्दुस्तान के लिए और अच्छा होगा । जब इंडस्ट्री इसमें शामिल हो जाएगी, तो इसे according to the needs of the consumers आगे जाने का मौका मिलेगा । आप जानते हैं कि डिजाइन के ऊपर वर्ष 2007 में यह ड्राफ्ट पॉलिसी बनी थी । आज वर्ष 2019 आ गया है, इसलिए इस ड्राफ्ट पॉलिसी में थोड़ा ओवरहॉलिंग करना जरूरी है । इसमें और थोड़ा नई-नई चीजें शामिल करने की जरूरत है । हम चाहते हैं कि हमारे हिन्दुस्तान में जो ‘क्रैप्स’है, हर राज्य में अलग-अलग ‘क्रैप्स’ है, मैं इसका वर्णन यहाँ नहीं करना चाहता हूँ । इसको कस्टमाइज करके, हर रीजन की, हर स्टेट की जो ‘क्रैप्स’है, इस डिजाइन इंस्टीट्यूट के दौरान उसको आप और प्रमोट कीजिए । इसके साथ ही विदेश में भी हमारी बहुत सारी एम्बेसीज हैं । विदेश में हमारा बहुत सारा इंफ्रास्ट्रक्चर है । हर देश में हमारी जो एम्बेसी है, उस एम्बेसी को इसमें शामिल कीजिए, जो हमारे इस ‘क्रैप्स’,डिजाइन को दुनिया भर में प्रमोट कर सकें । इन्हीं बातों के साथ मैं अपनी बात समाप्त करता हूँ । नमस्कार ।

माननीयअध्यक्ष : माननीय मंत्री जी ।

एक माननीयसदस्य : महोदय, इसे पास करा दीजिए ।

माननीयअध्यक्ष : ऐसे नहीं । माननीय मंत्री जी जवाबदेंगे । आप सुनिए ।

वाणिज्यऔर उद्योगमंत्रालयमें राज्य मंत्री (श्री सोम प्रकाश): महोदय, मैं धन्यवादी हूँ कि बहुतसारे मेंबर्स ने इस पर चर्चा की है ।…(व्यवधान)

माननीयअध्यक्ष : माइक अपने आप चालूहो जाता है । माननीय सदस्य, आप चिंता मत कीजिए ।

…( व्यवधान)

SHRI SOM PARKASH: Hon. Speaker, Sir, I am grateful to the hon. Members who have participated in the discussion. As many as 21 hon. Members have participated in the discussion and have given their valuable suggestions, which I really appreciate.

       Sir, the National Design Policy was passed by the Government in the year 2007. With a view to impart quality education in design, it was decided to establish four more National Institutes of Design on the pattern of NID-Ahmedabad. The Ahmedabad Institute has already been declared as the institute of national importance. It is only by way of legislation that the Parliament can declare any institute for scientific or technical education as an institute of national importance, as per the requirement under Entry 64 of the Union List of the Seventh Schedule of the Constitution of India.

महोदय, जो हमने चार नए इंस्टीट्यूट्स सैटअप किए हैं,उनको नेशनल इम्पॉर्टेंस इसलिए दी जा रही है, क्योंकि उनका स्टैंडर्ड वही होगा, जो नेशनल इंस्टीट्यूट ऑफ डिजाइन, अहमदाबाद का  है । नेशनल इंस्टीट्यूट ऑफ डिजाइन, अहमदाबाद के लिए सभी ने कहा है, उधर से भी एक माननीय सदस्य बोल रहे थे कि हम इस पर गर्व करते हैं कि हमारा इंस्टीट्यूट सबसे बढ़िया है,वर्ल्ड क्लास इंस्टीट्यूट है । उसी पैटर्न पर ये चार इंस्टीट्यूट सैटअप किए जा रहे हैं, उनको नेशनल इंस्टीट्यूट ऑफ नेशनल इम्पॉर्टेंस इसलिए डिक्लेयर किया जा रहा है कि इन सारे इंस्टीट्यूट्स की इम्पॉर्टेंस हो । जो एन्ट्री 64 ऑफ दी यूनियन लिस्ट है, सेवंथ शेड्यूल ऑफ दी कांस्टीट्यूशन,उसके मुताबिक ये नेशनल इंस्टीट्यूट ऑफ नेशनल इम्पॉर्टेंस बन सकें ।

 

महोदय, हमने चार इंस्टीट्यूट्स सैटअप किए हैं । नेशनल इंस्टीट्यूट ऑफ डिजाइन, मध्य प्रदेश,भोपाल में है । नेशनल इंस्टीट्यूट ऑफ डिजाइन, आन्ध्र प्रदेश,अमरावती में है । इसका प्रथम बैच वर्ष 2015 में शुरू किया गया था । नेशनल इंस्टीट्यूट ऑफ हरियाणा, कुरूक्षेत्र में है । वर्ष 2016-17 में इसकी फर्स्ट क्लास शुरू की गई थी । चौथा, नेशनल इंस्टीट्यूट ऑफ डिजाइन, असम, जोरहाट में है, जो वर्ष 2019-20 में शुरू किया गया था । 

DR. SHASHI THAROOR (THIRUVANANTHAPURAM): Sir, I need one clarification. What was the criteria under which it decides …(Interruptions)

माननीय अध्यक्ष:आप रिप्लाई के बाद प्रश्न पूछ लेना । रिप्लाई के बाद मैं आपको मौका दे दूंगा ।

…( व्यवधान)

श्रीसोम प्रकाश: सर, चारों इंस्टीट्यूट्स शुरू कर दिए गए हैं । आंध्र प्रदेश के अमरावती में जो इंस्टीट्यूट है, वहां के फर्स्ट बैच के विद्यार्थी इस साल दिसम्बर में ग्रैजुएट होंगे और उन्हें उसकीडिग्री दी जाएगी । उन्हें हम डिग्री प्रदान कर सकें, इसलिए यह बिल लाया गया है । Only by declaring this Institute as an Institute of National Importance, we can do it.  At present, these are established under the Societies Registration Act, 1860 and these Institutes have no power to grant degrees. जो चार इंस्टीट्यूट्स हैं, इनके लिए एक कॉमनसेन्ट्रल एग्जाम होता है । उसी के थ्रूइसमें एडमिशन देते हैं । इसके लिए एक नेशनल लेवलपर सेलेक्शन टेस्ट होता है और डिज़ाइन एण्ड एप्टीट्यूड टेस्ट होता है । जो अहमदाबाद का इंस्टीट्यूट है, उसी की तरह का सेम सिलेबस इन सारेइंस्टीट्यूट्स का है ।

सर, शशि थरूरजी जो बात कर रहे थे कि इनकास्टैण्डर्ड क्या होगा तो इनकावही स्टैण्डर्ड होगा जो गुजरात के इंस्टीट्यूट का है । इनका वही सिलेबस है, वही सेलेक्शन का ढंग है । इसलिए ये इंस्टीट्यूट्स उसके बराबर के होंगे ।

       The Government wants to make this Institute a hub of exports and outsourcing of design and for preparation of platform for creative design and development.  At present, new NIDs have been set up and ये जो सारेइंस्टीट्यूट्स हैं, ये स्टार्ट हो चुकेहैं । The ones in Andhra Pradesh and Haryana are working in transit camps. सर, येदोनों इंस्टीट्यूट्स वर्ष 2015-16 और 2016-17 में शुरू किए गए थे । The NID at Bhopal and NID at Jorhat have commenced from the academic session 2019-20.

       सर, ये जो चारों इंस्टीट्यूट्स शुरू किए जा रहे हैं, इनका मकसद यही है कि इनमें एक स्टैण्डर्ड एजुकेशन दी जाए और डिजाइन में पात्र का नाम हो । ‘मेड एण्ड डिजाइन इन इंडिया’ का जो कॉन्सेप्ट है, उसे लेकर हम चाहते हैं कि ये इंस्टीट्यूट्स बनें ।

       मेरी रिक्वेस्ट है कि इन चारों इंस्टीट्यूट्स से संबंधित जो अमेंडमेंट बिल लाया गया है, इसे पास करें ताकि हम इनकेविद्यार्थियों को डिग्री प्रदान कर सकें ।

 

डॉ. शशि थरूर: सर, जवाब दिया गया, पर जवाब पूर्ण नहीं है ।…(व्यवधान)

Sir, when I asked you what makes an Institute of National Importance, you said that ‘if it is like the one in Ahmedabad’. But by what yardstick do you decide it? How do you measure the criteria of excellence that merits the term ‘Institute of National Importance’?  Your Government since 2014 has raised the number of Institutes of National Importance from 40 to 95.  On what basis has it been done?  Can this Parliament, just by giving the words, confer quality, can it improve the faculty, can it guarantee a world class curriculum, can it produce learning outcomes?  What we need is some measurable standards.  The Committee on HRD way back in 2014 also called for measurable criteria and yardsticks on the basis of which the term ‘Institute of National Importance’ can be earned.  We are just passing a Bill and conferring this title but how are they earning it? What are they doing specifically, what yardsticks are they attaining to be able to earn this title?   That is a very important issue to which you have not replied.  You cannot say that an institute is of national importance because it is of national importance.  Fine, but how do we measure that?  This is my question, Mr. Minister. 

 

श्रीसोम प्रकाश: सर, नेशनल डिजाइन पॉलिसी वर्ष 2007 में पास की गई थी, जब काँग्रेस की सरकार थी । उन्होंने यह कहा था कि अहमदाबाद के इंस्टीट्यूट की तरह चार इंस्टीट्यूट्स खुलने चाहिए । उसी के मुताबिक ये इंस्टीट्यूट्स खोले गए हैं ।अहमदाबाद के इंस्टीट्यूट का जो स्टैण्डर्ड है, उसी के स्टैण्डर्ड के ये इंस्टीट्यूट्स होंगे । इनमें वही क्वालिटी होगी ।

माननीयअध्यक्ष: प्रश्न यह है:

“कि राष्ट्रीय डिजाइन संस्थान अधिनियम, 2014, राज्य सभा द्वारा यथापारित,  का संशोधन करने वाले विधेयक पर विचार किया जाए ।” प्रस्ताव स्वीकृत हुआ ।

माननीय अध्यक्ष : अब सभा विधेयक पर खंडवार विचार करेगी  ।

 प्रश्न यह है :

              “कि खंड 2 से 4 विधेयक का अंग बनें ।” प्रस्ताव स्वीकृत हुआ ।

खंड 2 से 4 विधेयक में जोड़ दिए गए ।

Clause 5                 Amendment of Section 3 माननीयअध्यक्ष: प्रो. सौगत राय,  क्या आप संशोधन संख्या 1 प्रस्तुत करना चाहते हैं? प्रो. सौगत राय (दमदम): महोदय, मैं संशोधन संख्या 1 प्रस्तुत नहीं करना  चाहता हूं । माननीयअध्यक्ष : श्री एन.के. प्रेमचन्द्रन – उपस्थित नहीं  ।

 प्रश्न यह है :

              “कि खंड 5 विधेयक का अंग बने ।” प्रस्ताव स्वीकृत हुआ ।

खंड 5 विधेयक में जोड़ दिया गया ।

 

Clause 6     Substitution of Section 4 माननीयअध्यक्ष: प्रो. सौगत राय,  क्या आप संशोधन संख्या 2 से 5 प्रस्तुत करना चाहते हैं? PROF. SOUGATA  RAY: Sir, I am not moving amendment Nos. 2 and 3. But I am moving my amendments No. 4 and 5.        I beg to move:

       ‘Page 3, for  lines 7 and 8,--

Substitute “(4) Any institute may establish an Institute Campus in the States with a population over two crores as per last census within a span of five years”.                                                       (4)   ‘Page 3, line 9,--

       after  “Ahmedabad”   

       insert  “in the State of Gujarat”.’                            (5)   

माननीयअध्यक्ष: अब मैं प्रो. सौगत राय द्वारा खंड 6 में प्रस्तुत संशोधन संख्या 4 और 5 को सभा के समक्ष मतदान के लिए रखता हूं । संशोधन मतदान के लिए रखे गए तथा अस्वीकृत हुए ।

माननीयअध्यक्ष : प्रश्न यह है :

              “कि खंड 6 विधेयक का अंग बने ।” प्रस्ताव स्वीकृत हुआ ।

खंड 6 विधेयक में जोड़ दिया गया ।

 

Clause 7         Amendment of Section 5 माननीयअध्यक्ष: प्रो.सौगत राय,  क्या आप संशोधन संख्या 6 और 7 प्रस्तुत करना चाहते हैं? PROF. SOUGATA RAY : Sir, I am not moving  amendment No. 6.  But I am moving  amendment No. 7.        I beg to move:

       ‘Page 3, line 29,--

       after  “Madhya Pradesh,”   

       insert  “West Bengal,”.’                                         (7)   

    

माननीयअध्यक्ष: अब मैं प्रो. सौगत राय द्वारा खंड 7 में प्रस्तुत संशोधन संख्या 7 को सभा के समक्ष मतदान के लिए रखता हूं । संशोधन मतदान के लिए रखा गया तथा अस्वीकृत हुआ ।

माननीयअध्यक्ष : श्री एन.के. प्रेमचन्द्रन – उपस्थित नहीं ।

 प्रश्न यह है :

              “कि खंड 7 विधेयक का अंग बने ।” प्रस्ताव स्वीकृत हुआ ।

खंड 7 विधेयक में जोड़ दिया गया ।

खंड 8 से 31 विधेयक में जोड़ दिए गए ।

 

Clause  32              Amendment of Section 39 माननीयअध्यक्ष: प्रो. सौगत राय,  क्या आप संशोधन संख्या 8 प्रस्तुत करना चाहते हैं? PROF. SOUGATA  RAY: Sir, I am moving amendment No. 8.

       I beg to move:

       ‘Page 5, line 7   

after  “Madhya Pradesh,”   

       insert  “West Bengal,”.’                                         (8)   

    

माननीयअध्यक्ष: अब मैं प्रो. सौगत राय द्वारा खंड 32 में प्रस्तुत संशोधन संख्या 8 को सभा के समक्ष मतदान के लिए रखता हूं । संशोधन मतदान के लिए रखा गया तथा अस्वीकृत हुआ ।

माननीयअध्यक्ष : श्री एन.के. प्रेमचन्द्रन – उपस्थित नहीं  ।

 प्रश्न यह है :

              “कि खंड 32 विधेयक का अंग बने ।” प्रस्ताव स्वीकृत हुआ ।

खंड 32 विधेयक में जोड़ दिया गया ।

Clause 33        Amendment of Section 40 माननीयअध्यक्ष: प्रो. सौगत राय,क्या आप संशोधन संख्या 9 और 10प्रस्तुत करना चाहते हैं? PROF. SOUGATA RAY :  Sir, I am not moving amendment No. 9. But I am moving amendment No.10.        I beg to move:

       ‘Page 5, line 17,--

after  “Madhya Pradesh,”   

       insert  “West Bengal,”.’                                         (10)   

    

माननीयअध्यक्ष: अब मैं प्रो. सौगत राय द्वारा खंड 33 में प्रस्तुत संशोधन संख्या 10 को सभा के समक्ष मतदान के लिए रखता हूं । संशोधन मतदान के लिए रखा गया तथा अस्वीकृत हुआ ।

माननीयअध्यक्ष : श्री एन.के. प्रेमचन्द्रन – उपस्थित नहीं ।

 प्रश्न यह है :

              “कि खंड 33 विधेयक का अंग बने ।” प्रस्ताव स्वीकृत हुआ ।

खंड 33 विधेयक में जोड़ दिया गया ।

       

Clause34          Insertion of  a new Schedule माननीयअध्यक्ष: प्रो. सौगत राय,  क्या आप संशोधन संख्या 11 प्रस्तुत करना चाहते हैं? PROF. SOUGATA  RAY: Sir, I am moving amendment No. 11 on which I will seek a division.        I beg to move:

       ‘Page 5, after line 34, insert,--

       “2A.       West             The National Institute of                   National   

              Bengal   Design, Dum Dum, a society            Institute of   

                           registered under the                  Design,   

                           Societies Registration Act, 1860       West Bengal.”’    

                                                                           (11)    

माननीयअध्यक्ष: प्रश्न यह है:                

             

“पृष्ठ   7, पंक्ति   11 के पश्चात,   2क. पश्चिम बंगाल     

      

        

      

      

अंत:   स्थापित करें ।             

      

   सोसाइटी रजिस्ट्रीकरण    अधिनियम,   1860 के अंतर्गत रजिस्ट्रीकृत एक सोसाइटी राष्ट्रीय डिजाइन संस्थान,   दमदम     

              

      

राष्ट्रीय   डिजाइन        

संस्थान,   पश्चिम        

बंगाल   ।”     

      

      

(11)            

         

     

PROF. SOUGATA  RAY: Sir, I demand Division.  It will be proved who is for West Bengal and who is anti-West Bengal. माननीय अध्यक्ष : लॉबीज़ क्लियर कर दी जाएं ।

लॉबीज़ क्लियर हो गई हैं  । 

महासचिव  ।

ANNOUNCEMENT  RE: AUTOMATIC VOTE  RECORDING  SYSTEM महासचिव: माननीय सदस्यों का ध्यान मैं स्वचालित मतदान रिकार्डिंग प्रणाली के संचालन से संबंधित बिन्दुओं की ओर आकृष्ट कराना चाहूंगी । मतदान आरंभ होने से पूर्व प्रत्येक माननीय सदस्य को अपना स्थान ही ग्रहण करना चाहिए और उसी स्थान से बटन को प्रेस करना होगा । जब माननीय अध्यक्ष ‘अब मतदान’ बोलेंगे तो मैं मतदान का बटन एक्टिवेट करूंगी जिसके पश्चात् माननीय अध्यक्ष के आसन के दोनों ओर डिस्पले बोर्डों के ऊपर लाल बल्ब जलेंगे और इसके साथ-साथ गौंग की ध्वनि भी सुनाई देगी  । मतदान के लिए माननीय सदस्य केवल गौंग की ध्वनि के पश्चात् ही दोनों बटन एक साथ दबाएंगे । मैं इसको पुन:दोहराना चाहूंगी कि केवल गौंग की ध्वनि के बाद ही दोनों बटन दबाएं । प्रत्येक माननीय सदस्य के सामने हेडफोन प्लेट पर लगा बटन और सीट की डेस्क के सबसे ऊपर लगे तीन बटनों में से कोई एक बटन – ‘हां’ के लिए हरा रंग है, ‘नो’ के लिए लाल रंग है और मतदान में भाग न लेने के लिए पीला रंग है । गौंग ध्वनि दूसरी बार सुनाई देने तक और प्लाजमा डिस्पले के ऊपर लगे लाल रंग के बल्बों के बुझने तक, जिसकी अवधि दस सेंकड है, दोनों बटन को प्रेस किए रखना अनिवार्य है । माननीय सदस्य कृपया नोट करें कि उनके मत दर्ज नहीं होंगे यदि पहली गौंग साउंड सुनने के पहले ही वह बटन दबा देंगे । गौंग साउंड सुनने के बाद ही बटन दबाएं और दूसरी गौंग साउंड सुनने तक दोनों बटन एक साथ प्रेस करके रखें । माननीय सदस्य माननीय अध्यक्ष के आसन के दोनों तरफ स्थापित डिस्पले बोर्डों पर अपना मत देख सकते हैं । मत अगर रजिस्टर नहीं हुआ है तो पर्ची के माध्यम से बाद में मतदान की मांग कर सकते हैं । धन्यवाद । माननीयअध्यक्ष: प्रश्न यह है:

  “पृष्ठ 7, पंक्ति 11 के पश्चात,   2क. पश्चिम बंगाल        अंत: स्थापित करें ।

  सोसाइटी रजिस्ट्रीकरण अधिनियम, 1860 के अंतर्गत रजिस्ट्रीकृत एक सोसाइटी राष्ट्रीय डिजाइन संस्थान, दमदम     राष्ट्रीय डिजाइन संस्थान, पश्चिम बंगाल ।”      (11)     लोक सभा में मत विभाजन हुआ :

 

 DIVISION                                  AYES                                 17.20hrs               

Ali, Kunwar Danish                  

Behanan, Shri Benny                  

Chowdhury, Shri Adhir Ranjan                  

 Dastidar,  Dr. Kakoli Ghosh                  

 Eden, Shri Hibi                  

*Gill, Shri Jasbir Singh                 

Kuriakose, Adv. Dean                  

Mondal, Shri Sunil Kumar                  

Mondal, Shrimati Pratima                  

Muraleedharan , Shri K.                  

Navaskani , Shri K.                  

Patil, Shri Shriniwas Dadasaheb                    

*Ramalingam, Shri S.                  

Ranjan, Dr.    R. K.                  

Ray, Prof. Sougata                  

Roy, Shrimati Mala                  

Sao, Shri Arun                  

Selvaraj, Shri M.                  

Senthilkumar    S. , Shri DNV                   

Sharma, Shri Kuldeep Rai                  

Sudhakaran,  Shri K.                  

Suresh, Shri Kodikunnil                  

Tewari, Shri Manish                   

Tharoor, Dr. Shashi                  

*Vasanthakumar, Shri H.                  

*Velusamy, Shri P.                  

Vishnu Prasad, Dr. M. K.         

    

    

    

    

    

    

                                                                         
  

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Agrawal, Shri Rajendra                  

Ajgalley, Shri Guharam                  

Baghel, Shri Vijay                  

Baheria, Shri Subhash Chandra                  

Balyan, Dr. Sanjeev                   

Beniwal, Shri Hanuman                  

Bhabhor, Shri Jasvantsinh Sumanbhai                  

Bhargava, Shri Ramakant                  

Bhatt, Adv. Ajay                  

Bhatt,  Shrimati   Ranjanben                  

'Bhole', Shri Devendra Singh                  

*Bisen, Dr Dhal Singh                  

Bista, Shri Raju                  

Chandel, Kunwar Pushpendra Singh                  

Chatterjee, Shrimati Locket                  

Chaudhary, Shri P. P.                  

*Chaudhary, Shri Pankaj                  

Choudhary, Shri Bhagirath                  

Damor, Shri Guman Singh                  

Das, Shri Pallab Lochan                  

Devarayalu, Shri Lavu Srikrishna                  

Devi, Shrimati Rama                  

Dubey, Dr. Nishikant                  

Duggal, Sushri Sunita                  

Gaddigoudar, Shri P. C.                  

Gandhi, Shri Feroze Varun                  

Gangwar, Shri Santosh Kumar                  

Gao, Shri Tapir                  

Geetha Viswanath, Shrimati  Vanga                  

Ghosh, Shri Dilip                  

Gogoi, Shri Topon Kumar                  

Goswami, Shri Dulal Chandra                  

*Gupta, Shri Sangam Lal                  

Hembram, Shri Kunar                  

Jadav, Dr. Umesh G.                  

Jadon, Dr. Chandra Sen                  

Joshi, Prof. Rita Bahuguna                  

Joshi, Shri Pralhad                  

Jyoti, Sadhvi Niranjan                  

Kachhadiya, Shri Naranbhai                  

Kapoor, Shri Kishan                  

Kashyap, Shri Dharmendra                  

Kaushik, Shri Ramesh Chander                  

Kishan, Shri Ravi                  

Kotagiri, Shri Sridhar                  

Kumar, Dr Virendra                  

Kumar, Shri P. Raveendranath                   

Kushwaha, Shri Ravindra                  

Maharaj, Dr. Swami Sakshiji                  

*Majumdar,    Dr. Sukanta                  

Meena, Shrimati Jaskaur                  

Meghwal, Shri Arjun Ram                  

Mishra, Shri Janardan                  

Munjapara , Dr. (Prof.) Mahendra                  

Murmu, Shri Khagen                  

Naik, Shri Raja Amareshwara                  

Oja, Shrimati Queen                  

Pal, Shri Jagdambika                  

Parkash, Shri Som                  

Paswan, Shri Kamlesh                  

Patel, Dr.K.C.                  

Patel, Shri Hasmukhbhai Somabhai                  

*Patel, Shri Parbatbhai Savabhai                  

Patel, Shrimati Sharda  Anil                  

Patel (Bakabhai), Shri Mitesh                  

Pramanik, Shri Nisith                  

Rathod, Shri Ratansinh Magansinh                  

Rathva, Shrimati Gitaben V.                  

Roy, Dr. Rajdeep                  

Sarangi, Shri Pratap Chandra                  

*Sarkar,    Dr. Subhas                  

Sarkar, Shri Jagannath                  

Saruta, Shrimati Renuka Singh                  

Satyavathi,    Dr. Beesetti Venkata                  

Shah, Shrimati Mala Rajya Laxmi                  

Sharma, Shri Jugal Kishore                  

Sharma, Shri Ram Swaroop                  

Shejwalkar, Shri Vivek Narayan                  

Shetty, Shri Gopal                  

Singh, Dr. Satya Pal                  

*Singh, Shri Arjun                  

Singh, Shri Brijbhushan Sharan                  

Singh, Shri Brijendra                  

Singh, Shri Dushyant                  

Singh, Shri Ganesh                  

Singh, Shri Giriraj                  

Singh, Shri Pradeep Kumar                  

Singh, Shrimati Kavita                  

Singh (Raju Bhaiya), Shri Rajveer                  

Solanki, Dr. (Prof.)  Kirit Premjibhai                    

Soni, Shri Sunil Kumar                  

Suresh, Shri Nandigam                 

Tamta, Shri Ajay                  

Tomar, Shri Narendra Singh                  

Tripathi, Dr. Ramapati Ram                  

Uikey, Shri Durga Das                  

Vardhan, Dr. Harsh                  

Vasava, Shri Parbhubhai Nagarbhai                  

Verma, Shri Bhanu Pratap Singh                  

Yadav, Shri Ram Kripal     

      

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माननीयअध्यक्ष: श्री एन.के.प्रेमचन्द्रन-उपस्थित नहीं ।    

                        श्री कोडीकुन्नील सुरेश, क्या आप संशोधन संख्या 17 प्रस्तुत करना चाहते हैं?   

SHRI  KODIKUNNIL SURESH: Sir, I beg to move:               

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The National Institute of Design, Kerala, a Society registered under the Societies Registration Act, 1860.

National Institute of    Design, Kerala.”.    

                                                                                                                                (17)   माननीयअध्यक्ष : अब मैं श्री कोडीकुन्नील सुरेश द्वारा खंड 34 में प्रस्तुत संशोधन संख्या 17 कोसभा के समक्ष मतदान के लिए रखता हूं । संशोधन मतदान के लिए रखा गया तथा अस्वीकृत हुआ ।

माननीयअध्यक्ष : प्रश्न यह है :

“कि खंड 34 विधेयक का अंग बने ।” प्रस्ताव स्वीकृत हुआ ।

खंड 34 विधेयक में जोड़ दिया गया ।

“ खंड 1, अधिनियमन सूत्र और विधेयक का पूरा नाम विधेयक में जोड़ दिए गए ।” माननीयअध्यक्ष : माननीय मंत्री जी प्रस्ताव करें कि विधेयक को पारित किया जाए ।  SHRI SOM PRAKASH: I beg to move:

       “That the Bill be passed.” माननीय अध्यक्ष: प्रश्न यह है :

“कि विधेयक पारित किया जाए ।” प्रस्ताव स्वीकृत हुआ ।

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