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Sir, I thought this was a case of self-confessed guilt.

It is the only case of punishment, but punishment that BJP has given to him cannot satisfy anybody.

SHRI ANIL BASU (ARAMBAGH): It is only to save the skin.

SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE : He has been supposedly punished by asking him to resign. But we have the wonderful example here. A Minister resigned on the ground of allegations of moral turpitude but was unfortunately reinstated even before the inquiry was over. There is ample evidence of that. A Minister who resigned committed to the people of this country over Doordarshan – official channels: "I shall never go back to the Ministry unless I am exonerated." Today he is so-called ‘adorning’ the Treasury Benches, restored as a Minister. The Opposition obviously cannnot treat him as a bonafide Minister of Defence.

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Now, Shri Kirit Somaiya.

… (Interruptions)

SHRI ANIL BASU : Oh, he is taking the field.

SHRI KIRIT SOMAIYA (MUMBAI NORTH EAST): Let us not worry because I am going to support Shri Somnath Chatterjee.

माननीय उपाध्यक्ष महोदय, मैं सोमनाथ बाबू जी की बात का समर्थन करता हूं। दोषी को सजा मिलनी चाहिए। पैसे लेने वाले और भ्रष्टाचार करने वाले को सजा मिलनी चाहिए।

14.48 hrs. (Shri P.H. Pandian in the Chair) सोमनाथ बाबू, पवन जी और सुमन जी ने कुछ बिन्दु इस चर्चा में उठाए। जूदेव को सजा मिलनी चाहिए, दोषी को सजा मिलनी चाहिए। यदि जूदेव दोषी हैं तो जूदेव को सजा मिले। कल यदि किरीट सोमैया भ्रष्टाचार करे, इस मामले में किसी की फेवर करे, पैसा लें और उसमें दोषी पाया जाए तो किरीट सोमैया को भी सजा मिलनी चाहिए। अगर जूदेव दोषी है तो जूदेव को सजा दो, अगर जोगी दोषी है तो जोगी को सजा दो, अगर जूदेव के पीछे कोई है तो उसे सजा मिलनी चाहिए और जोगी के पीछे सदन में बैठने वाला कोई प्लानर हो तो उसे भी सजा मिलनी चाहिए। मैं इस मुद्दे पर आपका समर्थन करता हूं।…( व्यवधान)

SHRI ANIL BASU : It was an enquiry. The Press Clippings were sent to the CBI.

SHRI KIRIT SOMAIYA : Everything was submitted to the CBI and the CBI started its action immediately on 18th. Of November.

SHRI MANI SHANKAR AIYAR : For 23 days, what did they do? The preliminary enquiry was there for 23 days; and 23 hours to file an FIR against Shri Jogi. What kind of symmetry is there in the treatment of cases of both these persons?

Don’t let me to defend you because I want you to replace him. We have found out how inefficient and unreliable he is as the Minister of State.

SHRI ANIL BASU : But, Sir, he has raised a valid point of order. You have to give the ruling.

SHRI KIRIT SOMAIYA : There is no question of point of order.

SHRI SATYAVRAT CHATURVEDI : Who will decide whether there is a question of point of order or not? … (Interruptions)

MR. CHAIRMAN: There was reference about some persons who are outside the House. That was brought to the notice of the Chair by the Deputy Leader of the Congress Party saying that somebody’s name has been dragged who is not here to defend himself. At that point of time, even I wanted to raise it. Since he has already raised it, the rule is there that we should not level any allegation against a person who is not inside the House.