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MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Shri Chaplot, he is not yielding.

... (Interruptions)

SHRI P. SHIV SHANKER : Without wasting the time of this House, I will immediately quote. I have asked my friend to take it out because I have marked those portions. I will proceed further.

What I am submitting is this. The speech of the Finance Minister made in the Rajya Sabha is not available - I have been trying since morning, it is not available - because it is in the supplementary document. But I understand that he seems to have said - if I am wrong, he may correct me - that there was no question of fixing it at $ 247, it had been fixed at $ 302. This is what he must have said. I do not know.

... (व्यवधान)आपके पास कोई प्रूफ नहीं है।

... (व्यवधान)

SHRI P. SHIV SHANKER : Sir, I will take ten minutes. I would like to say one thing...(Interruptions)

SHRI VIJAY GOEL : There is no proof at all. There is no evidence at all. No document is available...(Interruptions) श्री शकुनी चौधरी : सभापति जी, मेरा व्यवस्था का प्रश्न है। दो घंटे का टाइम है और एक घंटा बीस मिनट से शिवशंकर जी ही बोल रहे हैं, बाकी कौन बोलेंगे। यह एक घंटा बीस मिनट पूरी तरह बर्बाद हुआ है।

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SHRI P. SHIV SHANKER : They should recall, and I repeat it, that on a mere radio announcement in respect of Bofors, they raised the issue. Where was the proof? On a radio report from a foreign country, they raised it...(Interruptions) They talk of proof to be produced by us now! My friends are asking me to quote one thing. I was interrupted by one of my very illustrious friends by name Shri Vaiko. He put a question to me. I read it out for him. I quote:

SHRI P. SHIV SHANKER : I am quoting it. These are the proceedings of the House.

SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE : Please paraphrase it.

SHRI P. SHIV SHANKER : What he has said is this. At the time when the debate on Bofors was there. ... (Interruptions) SHRIMATI SUSHMA SWARAJ : You should not quote. I told you the Rule.... (Interruptions)

SHRI VAIKO (SIVAKASI): It is an established convention. ... (Interruptions) श्रीमती सुषमा स्वराज : सभापति महोदय. इस पर आपको व्यवस्था देनी होगी। जब नियम इस पर पाबंदी लगाता है तो इस पर आपको व्यवस्था देनी होगी। ... (व्यवधान)आप पीठासीन अधिकारी हैं।

The Working Group submitted its Report on the 29th of October, 1998. The Steel Minister had discussed the matter with the Finance Minister, and followed this with a letter to the Commerce Minister, dated 12th November, 1998. In that letter, the Steel Minister recommended like this. We shall place the letter. But, I do not think anybody is denying it. I quote.

"I urge you to kindly take steps to remove imports of seconds and defectives below a certain floor price from OGL. Mark these words `second and defectives'. The price of seconds and defectives is given in the last column of this letter. The recommendations of the Steel Minister was only to fix the floor price for the seconds and defectives. This follows a discussion with the Finance Minister. Eight days later, the Secretary to the Steel Ministry writes a letter to the Secretary to the Commerce Ministry where he says, and I quote: