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श्री मोहन रावले (मुम्बई दक्षिण मध्य) :आपकी वहां की पालिसी और यहां की पालिसी क्या अलग है?

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Shri Basu Deb Acharia, the hon. Minister is speaking. Please hear the hon. Minister.

SHRI L.K. ADVANI: Sir, the TADA was enacted in 1985.

SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA : You opposed it then and we also opposed it. … (Interruptions)

SHRI L.K. ADVANI: I know that.

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Shri Basu Deb Acharia, why do you make running commentaries? Let the hon. Minister say whatever he wants to say.

SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA : You cannot compare POTO with POCA. You are the Home Minister. Please do not compare it. … (Interruptions)

SHRI L.K. ADVANI: When there is a full debate, when we have a full debate we will consider all aspects. After all there are several States which, because there is no TADA … SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA : Why can you not take the Opposition into confidence? … (Interruptions)

SHRI L.K. ADVANI: Therefore, they needed that. They said – how do we deal with a certain situation?

SHRI L.K. ADVANI: Please let me complete. इतनी पेशंस तो होनी चाहिए। You are very right that POTO and the Ordinance did not prevent the attack on Parliament.

SHRI VARKALA RADHAKRISHNAN : It did not go into details. … (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Shri Radhakrishnan, let the hon. Minister complete.

SHRI L.K. ADVANI: It did not prevent the attack on Parliament. It did not prevent other things. … (Interruptions)

SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA : It is already imposed.

SHRI L.K. ADVANI: There is a law against murder. There is a law against rape. Does that prevent murder? Does that prevent rape? It does not. So, laws are intended for different purposes. They are intended to see that those who commit a crime are brought to book. Today, there are no laws. The present criminal system and the structure does not have adequate laws to deal with crimes of this kind. It is not a preventive law. Preventive detention is a different law. TADA also was intended to bring to book certain kinds of criminals, terrorist acts and disruptive acts. It failed. He is right when he says that so many thousands were arrested and only a few hundred were booked. One reason was that very many thousands were arrested who were not terrorists. I have known of it in Gujarat. I was perhaps among the first to oppose, to preside over a conference against TADA in Gujarat because TADA was being used against farmers. … (Interruptions)

"That leave be granted to introduce a Bill to make provisions for the prevention of, and for dealing with, terrorist activities and for matters connected therewith. "
 

  The motion was adopted.

 

SHRI L.K. ADVANI: Sir, I introduce the Bill.

 

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14.44 ½ hrs.   STATEMENT RE : PREVENTION OF TERRORISM (SECOND) ORDINANCE - LAID   THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI L.K. ADVANI): Sir, I beg to lay on the Table an explanatory statement (Hindi and English versions) showing reasons for immediate legislation by the Prevention of Terrorism (Second) Ordinance, 2001.