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THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS, MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PLANNING AND PROGRAMME IMPLEMENTATION (SHRI RAM NAIK): Sir, I am on a point of information. As per the List of Business, at Twelve of the Clock, we have to take the discussion regarding problems of Scheduled Castes and the Scheduled Tribes...(Interruptions)

SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE : It is not yet Twelve of the Clock.

SHRI RAM NAIK: Now, it is exactly Twelve of the Clock. I thought that I should not interrupt him in the beginning. My point is that at Twelve of the Clock, the discussion regarding problems of the Scheduled Castes and the Scheduled Tribes has to start.

MR. SPEAKER: After completing this item, we will take up that one.

SHRI RAM NAIK: It has been written here. संसदीय कार्य मंत्री तथा पर्यटन मंत्री (श्री मदन लाल खुराना): मेम्बर्स के वेतन और भत्ते वाला विधेयक अभी ले लिया जाए कयोंकि वह यहां से पास होकर राज्य सभा में जाएगा। पहले उसे ले लिया जाए कयोंकि यहां से पास होने के बाद आज राज्य सभा में पास होना है और राज्य सभा का आज लास्ट डे है।

... (व्यवधान) श्री रूपचन्द पाल (हुगली): कल फैसला हुआ था। उसमें कहा गया था कि यह चर्चा होने के बाद उसे लिया जाएगा। पहले एक चर्चा खत्म होने दीजिए।

Shri Ram Naik, I hope you would be probably replying. I do not know.

SHRI RAM NAIK: I would intervene after you speak...(Interruptions)

SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE : But there was no order issued by the Central Government. I am reading from the judgement of the Mumbai High Court.

"But there was no order issued by the Central Government or competently by the State Government which had delegated the authority under Section 3, Sub-Section (2) Clause (c) of the Foreigners' Act upon the Superintendent of Police. The order passed by the District Superintendent of Police on 20th August, 1957 must, therefore, be regarded as unauthorised and failure to carry out the requisition contained in that order cannot be penalised under Section 14 of the Foreigners' Act."

Shri Ram Naik, I hope you at least know Section 14. I hope you are having it.

SHRI RAM NAIK: I have studied it.

SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE : I am convinced about your sanity, Shri Ram Naik. I have no doubt about it.

MR. SPEAKER: Shri Somnath Chatterjee, please conclude. You have taken half-an-hour.

... (Interruptions)

SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE : Sir, forty minutes were taken by a seven-member party...(Interruptions) ...

A similar decision was taken by MP High Court in AIR 1959 MP 387....(Interruptions)