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SHRI RUPCHAND PAL (HOOGLY): Madam, there have been occasions in the past where on important ordinances, more Members have been allowed to speak... (Interruptions)

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS, MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PLANNING AND PROGRAMME IMPLEMENTATION (SHRI RAM NAIK): Madam, I am on the point of practice and procedure to be followed ... (Interruptions)

MR. CHAIRMAN : Yes, you please listen to the hon. Minister.

SHRI RAM NAIK: The practice and procedure which is being followed is... (Interruptions)

MR. CHAIRMAN: Please do not shout like this. Please listen to the hon. Minister.

... (Interruptions)

MR. CHAIRMAN: Nothing is going on record except what the hon. Minister says.

(Interruptions)* SHRI RAM NAIK: The practice and the procedure which is being followed is that one Member who opposes the Ordinance speaks first, then the hon. Minister speaks and then afterwards those who want to oppose can have their say. That is the practice. How can they start a new practice?

MR. CHAIRMAN: Yes. Shri V.V. Raghavan has already spoken.

... (Interruptions)

MR. CHAIRMAN: No, I do not need your help.

SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA (BANKURA): Madam, whenever an Ordinance is promulgated, the Statement of Objects and Reasons for promulgation of an ordinance is always given.

SHRI RAM NAIK: It has already been given.

SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGALAM: It has already been tabled.

SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA : No, it has not been given.

SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGALAM: We have tabled the Ordinance... (Interruptions)