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SHRI ANIL BASU : Sir, when Shri Ram Naik was on this side, he raised the same thing on the floor of this House.

SHRI RAM NAIK: He does not understand it. ...(Interruptions) Let me complete.

MR. CHAIRMAN: The Minister of Railways has gone to the Rajya Sabha. He will come back. ...(Interruptions)

MR. CHAIRMADue to urgency, he is in the Rajya Sabha. He will come back very soon. It does not matter. Now, Shri Upendra can proceed.

SHRI RAM NAIK: Let me explain. I am here as a Minister of State. I had not raised such issues. What I must tell the House is that Shri Nitish Kumar has to reply to the debate on the Railway Budget there. ...(Interruptions) The debate on the Railway Budget is concluding there.

SHRI ANIL BASU : He could say that he was leaving because he had other business.

SHRI RAM NAIK: He has informed the Speaker. He is not expected to inform you.

SHRI ANIL BASU : The House should be informed.

SHRI RAM NAIK: He has informed the Speaker. ...(Interruptions) This simple courtesy should be known to him. ...(Interruptions)

SHRI ANIL BASU : Shri Ram Naik, when you were on this side, you had raised the same point.

SHRI RAM NAIK: I never raised an issue which could have failed. ...(Interruptions)

l7.l4 hrs (Mr. Speaker in the Chair) MR. SPEAKER: Shri Chacko, please sit down.

SHRI P.C. CHACKO (IDUKKI): Shri Ram Naik, we are prepared to accommodate. Do not try to justify it.

SHRI RAM NAIK: No, no.

SHRI P.C. CHACKO : You had been doing it while sitting in the Opposition.

SHRI RAM NAIK: I never did it like that.

SHRI P.C. CHACKO : The Minister should be present here. ...(Interruptions) If the Minister is going, he should tell the House. We are prepared to accommodate. Shri Ram Naik should not justify it like this. ...(Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Please sit down.

SHRI P.C. CHACKO (IDUKKI): Sir, it is not correct. Shri Ram Naik is not expected to behave like this ... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: No, please.

... (Interruptions)

SHRI RAM NAIK: Sir, I have the right to give a personal explanation ... (Interruptions)

SHRI ANIL BASU : Sir, why is this competition? There are so many heterogenous groups in the House ... (Interruptions)

SHRI RAM NAIK: Sir, the hon. Members should know that the House of Elders is debating the Railway Budget. That debate has come to the conclusion. He has to reply to the debate there and that is why I am here. ... (Interruptions)