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"Dr. Subramanian Swamy, right from the very beginning, had been resisting not to disclose the source of information."
"Reading the statement of Dr. Subramanian Swamy in this regard as a whole about receiving of information by him through informants or through intermediaries anywhere, does not inspire confidence at all and has further been rendered incredible when he does not disclose the names of the intermediaries and he prevaricates on the mode of communication."
"Dr. Subramanian Swamy therefore cannot be believed when he changes his version and when he is indefinite and more particularly when he does not support his version by any corroboratory evidence."

DR. SUBRAMANIAN SWAMY :I do not mind if he says that it is ...because he is bound to say that it is a .... (Interruptions) मैं हिन्दी में भी बोल सकता हूं, लेकिन मेरे दक्षिण भारत के लोग मुझे सुन रहे हैं। इसलिए मैं उनकी सहूलियत के कारण अंगरेजी में बोल रहा हूं। श्री लालू प्रसाद : ठीक है। आप अंगरेजी में बोलिए।

We understand English. हम लोग चाहते हैं कि जो बैकग्राउंड और परस्िथतियां थीं और जिन लोगों का इन्वाल्वमेंट था, वह स्पष्टरूप से सामने आए। आप ठीक ढंग से पकड़ रहे हैं। इसलिए आप बोलिए।

DR. SUBRAMANIAN SWAMY :There is also a reference in the ATR and in the Jain Commission Report to the former Cabinet Secretary, Zafar Saifullah that he had seen transcripts of intercepts of telephone calls made by Mossad to me and that these were intercepted by the R&AW and the IB. That is, when he was the Cabinet Secretary, he deposed before the Commission: `I had seen telephone transcripts of calls from Mossad to Subramanian Swamy'. This, by the way, is reflected in pages 239 and 240 of Volume II of the ATR and I quote:

Now, one of the most rotten things done by this Government in this ATR - if I may be permitted to use the word, `rotten' - and something which is in clear violation of the principles of natural justice is at page 17. The paragraph is headed, `Alleged involvement of Dr. Subramanian Swamy'.

The Commission has examined Dr. Subramanian Swamy on the basis of

(a) What has been stated in the book written by Shri Govindan Kutty and Seshan - an Intimate Story; (b) an affidavit filed by one Shri Velu Swamy before the Commission; वे मेरी पार्टी में थे। मैंने उनको निकाल दिया था।

There is, of course, the great Shri Seshan who had written a biography in which he said that he told me that it was not the LTTE which killed Rajiv Gandhi, but it was Mossad.

He has told that I got angry. In fact, I asked for Shri Seshan to be summoned and before Shri Seshan was summoned, I was summoned.

MR. CHAIRMAN : As Shri Seshan is not here, you cannot refer his name here.

DR. SUBRAMANIAN SWAMY : His name is there in the ATR.

MR. CHAIRMAN: Are you referring to ATR?

DR. SUBRAMANIAN SWAMY : It is on page 17 of the ATR.