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SHRI KHARABELA SWAIN : You are a part of Great India. (Interruptions). I treat you as one of the great Indian.

SHRI P.C. THOMAS (MUVATTUPUZHA): The statement of the VHP leaders have come in the Press. They have not denied. (Interruptions).

SHRI PURNO A. SANGMA : All right, I will modify my statement. It is reported. (Interruptions). It could be wrong. I will be happy if it is wrong. But it is reported that the former Minister of Delhi, Shri Rajindra Gupta has made this statement. I think, it is because of the ignorance of Christian religion. I do not blame him. He alleged that the liquors are being served in the Church. Therefore, under the Excise Rules, it should not be allowed and it should be closed. I have read it. I do not know how you did not read it. (Interruptions). No, because you are challenging my statement, I am just saying it. (Interruptions).

MR. SPEAKER: You are testing my patience also! SHRI G.M. BANATWALLA : These are the things and, therefore, as I have said the stark reality of the situation today is the vigorous manner in which the Golwalkarian thoughts and policy are sought to be implemented and that must go in the larger interests of the nation and the unity and integrity of our country.

MR. SPEAKER: Shri P. C. Thomas will speak now.

... (Interruptions)

SHRI P.C. THOMAS (MUVATTUPUZHA): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I wish that we would not have had an Agenda like this and this Agenda we had only because of the series of incidents which took place recently and I wish to add to what the hon. Member just before me has said that secular India which we all have in our hearts should be projected as a place where everyone is secure, be he a person from a majority or a minority or any religion whatsoever. Religion should not be one which divides any person in this country. It should never be and, if it is so in any way, I think there is something for introspection.

SHRI HARIN PATHAK: It was a working day.

SHRI P.C. THOMAS : How many working days do you have? On how many working days, we have all gone into a strike? Do you take any action against all those who have gone on a protest strike? (Interruptions) It was only a protest. There was only a protest from the side of the institutions. I suppose, action was taken only in Gujarat. The Union Government did not take any action. In other places, no other State Government took action. ¸ÉÒ Ênù±ÉÒ{É ºÉÆPÉÉhÉÒ (+¨É®úä±ÉÒ): +vªÉIÉ ¨É½þÉänùªÉ, SÉÚÆÊEò MÉÖVÉ®úÉiÉ ¨ÉäÆ ¦ÉÉ®úiÉÒªÉ VÉxÉiÉÉ {ÉÉ]õÒÇ EòÉ +SUôÉ ¶ÉɺÉxÉ SÉ±É ®ú½þÉ ½þè +Éè®ú ªÉä ±ÉÉäMÉ xɽþÒÆ SÉɽþiÉä ÊEò MÉÖVÉ®úÉiÉ ¨ÉäÆ +SUôÉ ¶ÉɺÉxÉ SɱÉä <ºÉʱÉB ªÉä MÉÖVÉ®úÉiÉ EòÉ xÉÉ¨É ±Éä ®ú½þä ½þèÆ* ... (´ªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ) SHRI P.C. THOMAS : This is an atrocity. This may be taken as an atrocity on a Member belonging to a small Party! (Interruptions) ¸ÉÒ¨ÉiÉÒ ¦ÉÉ´ÉxÉÉ EònùÇ¨É nù´Éä : +vªÉIÉ ¨É½þÉänùªÉ, ÊEòºÉÒ ¦ÉÒ BäºÉÒ ¶ÉèIÉÊhÉEò ºÉƺlÉÉ EòÉä VÉÉä |Énùä¶É ¶ÉɺÉxÉ Eòä +xÉÖnùÉxÉ ºÉä SÉ±É ®ú½þÒ ½þè, =ºÉä <ºÉ |ÉEòÉ®ú ºÉä ½þc÷iÉÉ±É {É®ú VÉÉxÉä EòÒ +xÉÖ¨ÉÊiÉ xɽþÒÆ nùÒ VÉÉ ºÉEòiÉÒ* BäºÉÉ EòÉä<Ç ºÉƺlÉÉ xɽþÒÆ Eò®ú ºÉEòiÉÒ* ... (´ªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ) SHRI HARIN PATHAK : It was on a Friday. That circular was issued not only to one school but it was issued to all the schools stating that the children should not be involved in these activities. (Interruptions)

SHRI P.C. THOMAS : I am given only two minutes and out of those two minutes, they have already taken three minutes! (Interruptions) ¸ÉÒ ½þÊ®úxÉ {ÉÉ`öEò : +vªÉIÉ ¨É½þÉänùªÉ, <ºÉ |ÉEòÉ®ú ºÉä ºEòÚ±É EòÉä ¤ÉÆnù Eò®ú Eòä ºÉc÷Eò {É®ú =iÉ®úxÉä EòÒ ÊEòºÉÒ EòÉä PEAKER: Shri Thomas, please address the Chair; do not address the Members.

SHRI P.C. THOMAS : Sir, I was trying to limit my submission to only one point.

There was a protest on the 4th December and we made it known here, we said in Parliament that one Government - I do not say the Government of Gujarat - had said that it was going to take severe action, that it was going to cut all grants to any school which was closed down that day. There was some action that they envisaged. It was then said in response, in Parliament, that nothing of that sort was going to take place. In spite of that, the management of all the schools and institutions in Gujarat which were closed on that particular day had been served notices by the officer concerned. They say that the Inspectors went on that particular day to inspect the schools and when the Inspectors went to the schools, it was found that nobody was there. They say that when it was inquired into, it was known that they were on a protest. Then, they had given a notice saying that it should be replied by the next day. Usually, seven days' time is given to reply. It was said in the show-cause notice that they should report the very next day and show cause why the grant should not be cut. Action was immediately taken. This should not be done. (Interruptions) ¸ÉÒ¨ÉiÉÒ ¦ÉÉ´ÉxÉÉ EònùÇ¨É nù´Éä: +vªÉIÉ ¨É½þÉänùªÉ, <ºÉ |ÉEòÉ®ú ºÉä ÊEòºÉÒ ¦ÉÒ ¶ÉèIÉÊhÉEò ºÉƺlÉÉ EòÉä ´ÉÉiÉÉ´É®úhÉ Ê¤ÉMÉÉc÷xÉä EòÒ PEAKER: Shri Thomas, please conclude now.