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MR. SPEAKER: Let him complete what he wants to say. After that, I am prepared to listen to you.

   

… (Interruptions)

 

SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY (MIRYALGUDA): Sir, I am on a point of order. Will you kindly clarify as to whether Shri Goel is speaking in his capacity as Minister in the Prime Minister’s Office or not? … (Interruptions)

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS AND INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY (SHRI TAPAN SIKDAR): You are raising a point of order during ‘Zero Hour’. You cannot raise a point of order during ‘Zero Hour’. … (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Members belonging to different sections of the House have expressed their opinion on the issue which was raised by Shri Simranjit Singh Mann. If he also wants to speak on this issue, let him speak. But at the same time, if he speaks anything unparliamentary, I will definitely remove it from the records.

   

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SHRI PAWAN KUMAR BANSAL (CHANDIGARH): He is a Minister. What is he doing? … (Interruptions)

SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY : Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am on a point of clarification. … (Interruptions)

श्री विजय गोयल : अध्यक्ष महोदय, मुझे याद है २५ अक्टूबर के बाद…( व्यवधान)

MR. SPEAKER: I have not permitted you to raise the point of order, but you can speak.

SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY : Sir, I am on a point of procedural clarification since I cannot raise a point of order. Sir, a Minister can only intervene as a Minister on behalf of the Government… (Interruptions)

श्री विनय कटियार (फैज़ाबाद):अध्यक्ष महोदय, ज़ीरो अवर में कोई पॉइंट ऑफ ऑर्डर नहीं होता।…( व्यवधान)

SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY : Sir, Shri Goel is welcome to speak on behalf of the Government. If what he says amounts to a policy decision on behalf of the Government, then let him speak. But he cannot don two separate caps – one as a Minister and another as a Member -- at the same time in the House. If he is speaking as a Minister, on behalf of the Government, to make a policy announcement, then he is welcome to do so… (Interruptions) But if is trying to make a comment as a Member, then it is not permissible under the rules… (Interruptions)

श्री सत्यव्रत चतुर्वेदी (खजुराहो):शून्यकाल में मंत्री सरकार की ओर से बातों को नोट करते हैं।…( व्यवधान)

SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY : Sir, he is a Minister. He cannot speak as a Member. Let him first clarify whether he is speaking as a Minister or not… (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Let me first know as to what he is speaking.

   

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श्री जे.एस.बराड़:यह बहुत संवेदनशील मामला है। इस पर एक एक शब्द ध्यान से बोला जाना चाहिए।…( व्यवधान)

SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY : Sir, I would like to know whether he is speaking as a Minister or not… (Interruptions) Shri Goel, are you speaking as a Minister?… (Interruptions) This is my pointed question… (Interruptions) Shri Goel is a Minister in the Prime Minister’s Office and I would like to know whether he is speaking on behalf of the hon. Prime Minister or not?… (Interruptions) I am asking a simple question… (Interruptions) Please answer this simple question… (Interruptions)