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श्री सुखदेव सिंह ढींडसा : मैं एक मिनट के लिए एक्सप्लनेशन देना चाहता हूं।
अध्यक्ष महोदय:आपको लास्ट में मनिस्टर साहब के रिप्लाई के बाद बोलने का मौका मिलेगा।
…( व्यवधान)
MR. SPEAKER: Shri Dhindsa, you can reply later.
… (Interruptions)
अध्यक्ष महोदय: कुछ रिकॉर्ड नहीं होगा।
(Interruptions) … *
MR. SPEAKER: Nothing will be recorded except what I permit. What I do not permit will not be recorded. Only Shri L.K. Advani’s speech will be recorded.
“Thus what had initially started, as an angry outburst became an organised carnage. ”
MR. SPEAKER: Advani Ji, can I have the page number?
SHRI L.K. ADVANI : This is page no. 180.
MR. SPEAKER: Yes, you may go on.
SHRI L.K. ADVANI : On page no. 181, he goes on to say:
“There is enough material on record to show that at many places the Police had taken away their arms – meaning the arms of the Sikhs –
or other articles with which they could have defended themselves against the attacks by mobs. After they were persuaded to go inside their houses on assurances that they would be well-protected, attacks on them had started. All this could not have happened if it was merely a spontaneous reaction of the angry public.”
This is on page 181. अध्यक्ष जी, यह रिपोर्ट रखी गई, एक्शन टेकन रिपोर्ट रखी गई, उसी दिन सब लोगों की रिएक्शन्स हुई क इनमें जिन लोगों के नाम हैं, कांग्रेस के नेताओं और एक मंत्री का, उनके खिलाफ कार्रवाई क्यों नहीं की जा रही है या उनको सरकार क्यों बचाने की कोशिश कर रही है? लेकिन मैंने सब कुछ पढ़ने के बाद देखा कि इसमें अगर किसी के खिलाफ कार्रवाई पहले की गई है तो वह हैं दिल्ली के लैफ्टिनैंट गवर्नर,, जो लैफ्टिनैंट गवर्नर उस समय थे।यह घटना है श्रीमती गांधी जी की हत्या की जो ३१ अक्तूबर को हुई। इसमें लैफ्टिनैंट गवर्नर श्री गवई के बारे में कहा है, कमीशन की रिपोर्ट में कहा गया है क
“So far as the Lieutenant Governor Shri P.G. Gavai is concerned, it has to be stated that the explanation given by him is not satisfactory and does not convince the Commission in recording the finding that there was no lapse at his level. Though he does not appear to have delayed taking of required actions, it does appear to the Commission that he did not give as much importance to the law and order situation in Delhi as the situation demanded.[bts18] ”
सरकार का ATRपर कमेंट है:
MR. SPEAKER: In that form, it is not admissible.
SHRI L.K. ADVANI : Sir, it is serious. … (Interruptions)
MR. SPEAKER: Of course, it is serious. But in that form, it is not admissible.
SHRI L.K. ADVANI : Because it is serious, I did not rely on the paper itself. I phoned up.… (Interruptions)
MR. SPEAKER: I have intervened. I have said that it cannot go on. I have already said it.
SHRI L.K. ADVANI : Therefore, I first found out his number as to where he is. I was told that he is in Nagpur; he lives in Nagpur. I telephoned him; I rang him up[c19] .
* Not Recorded.
I said that this has been published in a Bombay newspaper yesterday in your name and I want to verify.
MR. SPEAKER: No, that cannot go.
SHRI L.K. ADVANI : He said, “I stand by every word of what I have said.”
MR. SPEAKER: Anyway, you have made a comment on that. It cannot be going as a statement because there is nobody to support.
SHRI PAWAN KUMAR BANSAL : Had he appeared before the Commission? Did that gentleman appear before the Commission?
SHRI L.K. ADVANI : I telephoned him.